RE: Jesus did not rise from the dead -- My debate opening statement.
December 27, 2016 at 2:08 pm
(December 25, 2016 at 7:33 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 25, 2016 at 5:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: "Christus" does not equal "Jesus."
Roman writers heard of christos long before the jesus story was invented.
And there is archaeological evidence of Chrestus in Rome itself in 37AD.
Both Christus and Chrestus were Greek words, not Latin.
The fact that Tacitus says that he ("Christus") was executed by Pontius Pilate is proof-positive that he was referring to Jesus.
Bullshit. You don't know when "jesus" was written into the story. Pliny and Suetonius never heard of any "jesus" either. C 160 AD a Roman satirist named Lucian of Samosata wrote:
Quote:"These deluded creatures, you see, have persuaded themselves that they are immortal and will live forever, which explains the contempt of death and willing self-sacrifice so common among them. It was impressed on them too by their lawgiver that from the moment they are converted, deny the gods of Greece, worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws, they are all brothers. They take his instructions completely on faith, with the result that they despise all worldly goods and hold them in common ownership. So any adroit, unscrupulous fellow, who knows the world, has only to get among these simple souls and his fortune is quickly made; he plays with them."
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/lucian.html
Even Lucian had never heard of anyone named "jesus." That had to wait for Celsus c 180.
You really need to dismiss the bullshit story put forward by the early church and start thinking for yourself.
