RE: Is atheism a scientific perspective?
December 27, 2016 at 10:10 pm
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2016 at 10:16 pm by Whateverist.)
(December 27, 2016 at 6:34 pm)robvalue Wrote:(December 27, 2016 at 5:11 pm)Mudhammam Wrote: I didn't read through all of his rabble but given my experience of ID arguments, I presume that his, like most of them, is something along the following lines:
P1. Creation rationally requires a Creator just as Information rationally requires Intelligence.
P2. Creation contains Information.
C. We are thus rationally required to posit the existence of an Intelligent Creator.
... How close did I come?
You have gone a bit above and beyond there
It's more like this:
Stuff looks designed to me, therefor it's designed .. BY GOD!!
Fixed that for you (my bold).
(December 27, 2016 at 7:46 pm)AAA Wrote:(December 27, 2016 at 7:39 pm)Astreja Wrote: Well, seeing as I've programmed computers and built and rebuilt computers and installed PROMs in computers and soldered computer components and etched circuit boards and attended an Intel seminar on the 8086 microprocessor, I'm calling argumentum ex rectum on your attempt to dodge the burden of proof in this instance.
Congratulations. How about your car? Do you design those? Do you know how it was designed? The point is that we don't have to know how something was designed to rationally infer that it was.
The car and computer are manmade so obviously they are either designed or just thrown together in slipshod fashion. But cells and multicellular anatomy are not manmade. I think the contrast you're looking for is between manmade and naturally occurring. Only manmade things and items fashioned by other organisms are 'designed', the rest is naturally occurring - no assembly required!