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The Dangers of End time Prophecy
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RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy
(December 28, 2016 at 7:44 pm)Lek Wrote:
(December 27, 2016 at 10:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Unless you can find a "disciple" living around somewhere it looks like your godboy was full of shit.

Or rather, the assholes who wrote the silly gospel were.

Again, he's speaking of the destruction of the temple in 70 AD.  First of all, in verse 27 he is using apocalyptic language, which means he is speaking symbolically.  He is purposely using language taken from the old testament book of Daniel 7:13 in an apocalyptic prophecy which reads:

13 As my vision continued that night, I saw someone like a son of man[a] coming with the clouds of heaven.

When the bible uses apocalyptic language they are normally referring to a cataclysmic event, such as the invasion of Israel and the ensuing captivity of the Jewish people by Babylon, or the end of time in Revelation.  The disciples were schooled in the old testament scriptures and would have been familiar with this.  That's why you need to consider his audience.

In verse 2 of Matthew 24, the chapter you are quoting Jesus says when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to the buildings as they were leaving the temple:

2 But he responded, “Do you see all these buildings? I tell you the truth, they will be completely demolished. Not one stone will be left on top of another!”

This clues us that he will be talking about the destruction of the temple and the end of the Jewish sacrificial system.  Jesus will come in power with his kingdom to accomplish this as stated in verse 30 of the chapter.

And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

In verse 34 he says:

I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass from the scene until all these things take place.  The destruction of the temple occurred within the time span of the generation living at the time of Jesus' prediction.

This "prediction" would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it was a contemporaneous account of something the man actually said (preferably something he wrote himself) rather than words put into his mouth decades after his death and after the Temple had already been destroyed.  Rolleyes

But even if he had predicted it, then what? That's evidence that he was the Messiah? The son of God? Would it really have been such a stretch for a Jew living in the 1st Century to figure out that continued provocation of the Romans would result in disaster?

Consider me unimpressed.
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The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 27, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 2:01 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Drich - December 27, 2016 at 2:05 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 2:09 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 27, 2016 at 3:07 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 27, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 27, 2016 at 6:42 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 27, 2016 at 9:33 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 29, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 27, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 27, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 29, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Whateverist - December 27, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 28, 2016 at 12:17 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 28, 2016 at 9:47 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 29, 2016 at 7:40 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 29, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 29, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 29, 2016 at 11:04 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 30, 2016 at 1:21 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 30, 2016 at 9:24 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 30, 2016 at 11:07 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 30, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 30, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2016 at 4:33 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 31, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Cato - December 27, 2016 at 6:44 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Tonus - December 27, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 9:36 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 27, 2016 at 9:41 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 9:43 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 27, 2016 at 9:47 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by vorlon13 - December 27, 2016 at 9:48 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 10:12 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 28, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Crossless1 - December 28, 2016 at 8:36 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 28, 2016 at 9:20 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Crossless1 - December 28, 2016 at 9:26 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Angrboda - December 28, 2016 at 9:43 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 28, 2016 at 9:52 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 28, 2016 at 10:36 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 29, 2016 at 6:58 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by LadyForCamus - December 27, 2016 at 10:56 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 28, 2016 at 1:39 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brakeman - December 28, 2016 at 9:57 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 28, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 28, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 28, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mister Agenda - December 29, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 30, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 30, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 6:18 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 30, 2016 at 6:20 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 8:40 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Cyberman - December 30, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 9:05 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mr Greene - December 30, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Tonus - December 30, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2016 at 7:56 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Cyberman - December 30, 2016 at 9:02 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 31, 2016 at 12:09 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mr Greene - December 31, 2016 at 4:46 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 31, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 31, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mr Greene - December 31, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Tonus - December 31, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 31, 2016 at 1:12 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - January 1, 2017 at 6:59 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 3:41 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - January 1, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 8:19 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - January 2, 2017 at 2:36 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Astonished - January 2, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 9:02 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 9:23 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 9:28 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Cyberman - December 31, 2016 at 1:14 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mr Greene - January 1, 2017 at 9:46 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 23, 2017 at 2:53 am

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