The Dangers of End time Prophecy

[Brian37]

Let me translate  "I don't need any clues from you", really means "I am unwilling to consider that I got it wrong" even in the face of the fact my book was written in an age of scientific ignorance. Don't feel bad GC, no religion, polytheistic or monotheistic worldwide, back then had any modern concept of scientific reality that we do now.

I wasn't trying to use the Bible as a science book. The Bible is a book that Christians use to grow in a better relationship with our Savior and Lord. I know God is real and He is who He says He is, He states in his book He is the only God and He created this planet and all that's good upon it. I used my God given mind to see the truth through nature and noticed you did not disagree with the content of my previous post.

GC

So without peer review all you are saying is "I like what I believe". So do all the other humans with other god claims. 

See if you can spot the pattern.

"The bible is a book that Christians use to grow in a better relationship with our Savior"

"The Koran is a book that Muslims use to grow in better relationship with Mohammed and Allah"

"The Torah and Talmud are books that Jews use to grow in a better relationship with Yahweh"

"Buddha is the enlightened one whom Buddhists use to reach Nirvana"

"The Baghavad Gitas and Vedas are whom the Hindus use to grow in a better relationship with their gods"

Great that you accept that you are not claiming the bible is a science textbook. That is a start. But if you accept that all the other religions you reject are merely the likes of others, don't stupidly think that they don't think they got it right as much as you think you got it right. You all think you got it right. 

GC you, like most humans bought into something either your parents and or society sold you. Nobody is asking you what you believe, but why you feel the need to believe it. It feels right? So?

Skeptics question every religion, not just yours. To us we feel like DMV employees overwhelmed by a planet of wannabe drivers who cant take an eye test because they don't want to open their eyes, and don't accept the concept of a combustion engine (IE evolution and climate change), but yet they want to all drive on "feels right" "feels good", without one lick of evidence they know what they are talking about when it comes to the nature of reality.

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GC, why would you think evolution would have a better result than being created by a perfect being? You seem to be going with 'if we evolved, we'd be better than if we were created'. Doesn't sound very sound to me.

Not sure what that line of questioning was meant to demonstrate. But knowing you are an atheist, let me see if I can try to guess.

You have two options.

1. Mater Puppet Wizard did it.

2. No Wizard required and we are a result of an non cognitive natural process(to which I agree with option 2)

Correct me if I am wrong. But maybe you are arguing the "if" qualifier word here.

To GC,

Evolution DOES NOT claim humans are an apex master species. Evolution says humans simply have different adaptations. Our brains as smart as we think we are, will not make us as successful long term like the water bear or cockroaches or bacteria. We can be, if we want to though, be smart enough to extend our finite ride longer. But we are NOT an apex in life. We are merely one species on a planet of billions of species of everything, from insects to fish, to bacteria plants to birds to, you name it. We are not an apex. We will most likely go extinct either by our own hand, or something like what killed the dinosaurs but other life, like bacteria, water bears and cockroaches will more likely continue on.

Religion however contradicts itself with the claim humans are an apex and a master species perfectly designed. And when the first polytheistic gods and monotheistic gods were claimed, humans were simply looking for answers as to why good and bad happened. But the problem with the idea of a human being made by perfect gods or a perfect God is defied by the real reality of our own biological flaws such as getting childhood cancer, or choking to death on food because we share the same eating and breathing tube. Those are the physical absurdities that defy the logic of a god that knows what it is doing. 

The moral aspect of a deity/supernatural being/ polytheistic or monotheistic God is even worse as a claim if anyone of any religion wants to claim it or they are watching out for humans. 50 to 60 million humans die every year from everything, in birth to old age, from accident, crime natural disaster and war. That does not strike me that Allah, or Yahweh or Jesus or Buddha or Apollo or Zues or the ancient Egyptian sun god Ra is watching out for humans. 

Humans have always thought their deities were real since they first started making those guesses as to reality. I am trying to tell you that really all it is is our species projections of their own attributes and desires and fears and narcissism.