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The Dangers of End time Prophecy
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RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy
(December 30, 2016 at 10:55 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
Godschild Wrote:I don't and I'm not sure why you thought I stated that. What I tried to say was why would evolution leave out of man what it put into all other species if evolution were true.
GC

Because that's now how evolution works, GC. If I misunderstood it as badly as you do, I probably wouldn't believe it either. Evolution is not miraculous. It does not bend towards some ideal state. Natural selection eliminates individuals who aren't adapted well enough to their environment from the gene pool. It has no vision for the future, it may let a more specialized species out compete a more generally adaptable one and when only the more specialized species is left, it may die out due to change in the environment, and both species are gone. We're adapted to our environment as it is now and if the environment changes and too many of us can't adapt, we'll die off. That's all natural selection promises. Every biological feature has a cost, they take energy, and if they don't increase the chance of reproductive success, they're gradually lost, like cave fish losing their vision. We don't have a Swiss Army knife of special adaptations because we don't really need them, do we? We get things done with hands, ingenuity and social cooperation, and that's been enough for us to dominate the planet.

I agree it has no goal for the future, but It isn't about survival of the fittest either. It is simply about the ability to adapt. Health does play a factor yes, but only one factor.

I like to use the following example.

Two guys are sitting side by side in a bar. One guy is 50 years old only five feet tall 200 lbs, has health probs because of his weight, but has three kids. The guy sitting next to him is 6 feet tall only 25, buff and fit, no kids. The small guy spills a beer on the big guy. The big guy gets upset and tries to start a fight with him, the small guy pulls out a gun and shoots the big guy dead. The unfit guy won at evolution because he produced offspring and the healthy guy did not before he died.

Fitness is only one aspect of survival, producing offspring before you die is a factor. Evolution still does not care what life wins, only what works.

Adaptation is about getting to the point of reproduction, that includes the individual life species avoiding death, nut just having healthy genes. It is hard for most theist to grasp the reality that most attempts at life fail. Most sperm never get inside the egg, most eggs go to period. Most acorns fall to the ground and rot and don't end up becoming adult trees.

And even the life that starts can get disease, have genetic flaws, or get killed by other life, or natural disaster, before it complete's it's life cycle.
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The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 27, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 2:01 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Drich - December 27, 2016 at 2:05 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 2:09 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 27, 2016 at 3:07 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 27, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 27, 2016 at 6:42 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 27, 2016 at 9:33 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 29, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 27, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 27, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 29, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Whateverist - December 27, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 28, 2016 at 12:17 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 28, 2016 at 9:47 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 29, 2016 at 7:40 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 29, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 29, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 29, 2016 at 11:04 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 30, 2016 at 1:21 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 30, 2016 at 9:24 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 30, 2016 at 11:07 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 30, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 30, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2016 at 4:33 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 31, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Cato - December 27, 2016 at 6:44 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Tonus - December 27, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 9:36 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 27, 2016 at 9:41 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 9:43 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 27, 2016 at 9:47 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by vorlon13 - December 27, 2016 at 9:48 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 27, 2016 at 10:12 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 28, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Crossless1 - December 28, 2016 at 8:36 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 28, 2016 at 9:20 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Crossless1 - December 28, 2016 at 9:26 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Angrboda - December 28, 2016 at 9:43 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 28, 2016 at 9:52 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 28, 2016 at 10:36 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 29, 2016 at 6:58 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by LadyForCamus - December 27, 2016 at 10:56 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 28, 2016 at 1:39 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brakeman - December 28, 2016 at 9:57 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 28, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Minimalist - December 28, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 28, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mister Agenda - December 29, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 30, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 30, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 6:18 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Lek - December 30, 2016 at 6:20 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 8:40 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Cyberman - December 30, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 9:05 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mr Greene - December 30, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Tonus - December 30, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2016 at 7:56 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Cyberman - December 30, 2016 at 9:02 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 31, 2016 at 12:09 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mr Greene - December 31, 2016 at 4:46 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - December 31, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Brian37 - December 31, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mr Greene - December 31, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Tonus - December 31, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - December 31, 2016 at 1:12 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - January 1, 2017 at 6:59 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 3:41 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - January 1, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 8:19 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Godschild - January 2, 2017 at 2:36 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Astonished - January 2, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 9:02 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 9:23 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 9:28 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Cyberman - December 31, 2016 at 1:14 pm
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Mr Greene - January 1, 2017 at 9:46 am
RE: The Dangers of End time Prophecy - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 23, 2017 at 2:53 am

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