RE: Milo Yiannopoulos; the man twitter banned got a book deal. Currently #2 on Amazon.
December 30, 2016 at 1:25 pm
(This post was last modified: December 30, 2016 at 1:26 pm by Regina.)
(December 30, 2016 at 12:43 pm)TheRealJoeFish Wrote:(December 30, 2016 at 12:37 pm)Regina Wrote: Yeah I raised my eyebrows at that too. This is a guy who openly makes reference to being gay non-stop* and has a very flamboyant persona, I don't see any self-hatred there at all.
*Which is a point I don't understand about him actually. Again it's something he's hypocritical about, on one hand he claims to hate all indentity politics and then on the other he near constantly makes reference to being gay, when it suits his argument or gives him status as a "minority" speaker.
Milo has stated, in an article titled "Why I'll Probably Never be a Parent": "I don’t hate myself and I don’t hate my sexuality. (Granted, I have a complicated relationship with the latter.) Nor do I hate other gay men. (Where would fat girls be without them?) But if my beliefs about raising kids get me branded a homophobic homo… well, so be it." The beliefs he's referring to are that no sane person would ever choose to be gay, and that he would never raise a child in a gay household because it could even slightly influence the child to be gay, because "Who wouldn’t want to protect a child from a path that leads to such destructive self-loathing? …"
I don't think this is an utterly ridiculous stance (although I think he's being silly/short-sighted), although it was written back in 2011, back when he was saying that trolls should be better controlled online and that people worrying about things like video games were petty manchildren. That is to say, back before he realized that saying things he doesn't actually believe in the most inflammatory manner possible could get him a ton of money.
I agree with him, sorry if that offends some.
I've used that "no sane person would choose this" argument myself before in response to religious bigots... and it's true. My potential dating pool is tiny, I can't have kids with my potential life partner, some members of my family have been quite disapproving of me, and my very existence is illegal in several dozen countries... you don't choose this shit.
It's not "self-hate" to admit there are challenges (some down to others' bigotry, some unchangeable) that come with being gay. Yes I have come to completely accept and love myself as a gay person, I wouldn't change it now at this point in my life... I still wouldn't wish it on other people.
I've also said before that, while I completely support gay adoption, I have *questions* (not outright against it, just considerations) about surrogacy and sperm donorship in general, and the effect it might have on the child not knowing who their biological parents are. I don't think that's unreasonable.
I think these are legitimate viewpoints that some gay people think about, and we deserve to question this shit without being shot down as "self-haters" by the gay lobby, or worse, straight people who think they speak for us.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie
"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie