(December 30, 2016 at 1:58 pm)AAA Wrote:(December 29, 2016 at 12:54 am)Chas Wrote: The algorithm is sufficient to accomplish what we see. Calculate the number of organisms and reproduction events that have existed in the last 3,000,000,000 years (they are staggeringly large numbers) and you will see that there has been plenty of room for the amount of evolution we observe.
Tell that to the Inuit. Pound for pound, there is far more nutrition in meat than in plant matter.
That is a ludicrously incorrect statement. Pound for pound, there is far more energy content in meat than in plant matter.
See above.
You can't just assert that algorithms show it to be adequate.
The algorithm of imperfect replication and differential reproduction leads inexorably to evolution; it can go nowhere else.
Small changes accumulate and there is no limit to change that accumulation.
Quote:And I know that there have been a lot of reproductive opportunities, but we do not know how to accurately estimate the number.
So you cannot claim that there hasn't been sufficient opportunity.
Quote:And when you say "there is far more nutrition in meat", you are showing that you don't understand what nutrition means. There are more calories, but you are ignoring the thousands of phytochemicals that we need to get from plant foods. Also, we need sugars, vitamins, minerals that are much more concentrated in plant foods.
It is not either/or.
And you are ignoring the complex fats and proteins that meat provides that are far more difficult (or even impossible) to get from plant matter.
It does not matter to nutrition how much plant material went into producing the meat.
Quote:And when you say that is a ludicrously incorrect statement, you must be ignoring how energy moves through trophic levels. When we are eating meat, we are acting as secondary consumers.
It doesn't matter. Meat has properties that plants do not.
Quote:The primary consumer doesn't consume all the available energy from the producer. They don't assimilate all of the energy that they consume. Then we, as secondary consumers, have the same inefficiency. If we ate plants, we are acting as primary consumers and cutting out the wasted energy of the middle man.
You ignore the increased energy expended to gather and consume sufficient plant material as compared to meat.
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Science is not a subject, but a method.