(January 1, 2017 at 9:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You can say it. Im the member being referred to here.
Though i wish the context of which I said that in had been posted, as I feel as though the way it is being presented here is a bit of a misrepresentation.
Anyhow, sorry if it was condecending and insulting to anyone. It was not my intention.
Shhhhhhhh. Shhhhh. Shhh.
One does not simply call themselves out, C_L! In any case it doesn't matter who said it, I was bringing up the concept not the Christian. Had totally forgotten it was you, too! Thanks for the apology though. :hugs:
Do you owe me one I don't think so? But since you feel your quotes were misrepresented, lemme pull over what you said and lets break it down. Maybe I'm oversensitive tonight and completely in the wrong for being offended! Either way it's not your responsibility to predict the negative effect your words will have on us (unless it's blatant like how True Christian and Gods Child relish in telling us we are hell bound)--if you did that, you'd never post again! None of us would.

(January 1, 2017 at 6:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(January 1, 2017 at 6:22 pm)The_Empress Wrote: While I agree the OP is mostly reasonable, I don't understand how you can't see the ironic condescension and hostility in "you are a sinner just like me, and I believe I deserve hell" in a thread about the crappy way some Christians treat atheists.
OP, I do thank you for your discourse. It is important to understand, though, that implying people deserve hell is kind of awful.
I think you are focusing on the wrong thing though. Regardless of what words he uses (and I understand certain words are "triggers" for atheists, like sin and hell), all he meant by that comment was that he doesn't see himself as better or superior to any of you. I think he's trying hard to be kind and humble to everyone just not understanding that certain words sets ppl off.
I dunno what they do or do not understand, but I do know that even the layest of laymen can fathom the idea of giving a jewish person a golden star pin, or asking an adopted kid where their mommy and daddy are, or walk up to a bunch of strangers and telling them they're going to go to hell is inherently going to get an adverse reaction. Why are you coming to their defense if not simply because you assume his motivaions are pure simply because of that cross on his chest?
The BTK killer was a church goer, after all. For all you know about this stranger, he could very well be here on a not so innocent mission. Would you as easily come to the defense of a muslim, of not understanding the premises of trigger words?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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