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The purpose of Law
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RE: sexual orientation issue
(June 22, 2011 at 4:07 pm)Girlysprite Wrote: Aerzia, are you an anarchist? Smile Your statements sound like it.

I am.

Quote:world with laws which are sometimes in the way, or a world without laws at all where rights of the strongest rules. I'd rather have the world with laws, imperfect as they and their process of enforcement may be.

Laws are never in the way, only lawmakers. Laws or no laws: the strong will voraciously prey upon the weak always.

A false sense of security might feel better... for a while. And then the Klackon Bio Terminate your homeworld after the Meklar Stack of Doom annihilates every fringe world you've ever colonized and the Mrrshan offer you a tribute of Nuclear Engines to add insult to the injury.

Fucking erratic personalities...
(June 22, 2011 at 4:18 pm)Rwandrall Wrote:
(June 22, 2011 at 3:22 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Laws are an attempt to control that which cannot be controlled. People don't kill others because it isn't worth it to them already... having a law stating that you cannot is redundant and useless. It is a kindness to inform the weak of what you might do should they do something that you do not like... it is an idiocy to believe that because you might do something in response they will not do it.

Yeah...that's not true at all. In the slightest.

Take the FDA. Laws have established that if you do not show on your product what it contains, or lie about it, you get a fine. Do you really think that before that law was passed companies didn't put shit into their products anyways, so the law was redundant ? Bullshit !

Nobody respects laws. Companies respect force. Laws are nigh instantly forgotten when the force behind them disappears.

The FDA isn't there today because it is the law. The FDA is there today because Teddy said "fuck you" to certain barbaric practices of food companies in the United States, and laid the ground rules of 'do this or I will shut your shit down'.

Badass Teddy. He carried a big stick.

Quote:How about torts ? Do you really think that if there weren't laws, someone that out of negligence caused someone to lose an arm would simply pay for their treatments out of kindness...?

Not at all. Do you really think that because there are laws people do this?

The legal system is a quaint word for coercion.

Quote:And then of course there's the complicated law matters. Things that a simple reasonableness test cannot resolve alone.


Things that are ultimately decided by the rich people that 'don't exist'. But the facade is certainly entertaining.

Quote:Laws against murder are rarely a deterrent, i'll give you that one. Because people who kill don't do it reasonably. But that's the exception, not the rule. Do you really think that if stealing was legal, its numbers wouldn't rise at all ? Yeah...no. Law is a powerful deterrent without which society couldn't function.

Piracy Heart
(June 22, 2011 at 4:59 pm)Napoleon Wrote: I thought laws existed to punish those who break them. Some may act as a deterrent but that's merely a side effect of the punishment which comes from breaking the law.

It is all a formality and that is all. They'd do it to you without the laws too.

And then they'd make laws to justify themselves Heart
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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foo - by Girlysprite - June 22, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 22, 2011 at 4:18 pm
[split] The purpose of Law - by Napoléon - June 22, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Girlysprite - June 23, 2011 at 1:22 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Violet - June 23, 2011 at 2:07 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Anymouse - June 23, 2011 at 2:48 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Violet - June 23, 2011 at 3:23 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 23, 2011 at 8:23 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 8:39 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 23, 2011 at 9:49 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 9:55 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 23, 2011 at 10:55 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 11:06 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Napoléon - June 23, 2011 at 11:06 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 11:07 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Anymouse - June 23, 2011 at 11:11 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 23, 2011 at 11:28 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 11:48 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 23, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 12:34 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 23, 2011 at 1:00 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 1:06 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 23, 2011 at 1:19 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 23, 2011 at 2:06 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 7:00 pm
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Anymouse - June 24, 2011 at 4:58 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Rwandrall - June 24, 2011 at 6:06 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Anymouse - June 24, 2011 at 6:09 am
RE: sexual orientation issue - by Violet - June 24, 2011 at 1:28 pm

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