RE: Milo Yiannopoulos; the man twitter banned got a book deal. Currently #2 on Amazon.
January 7, 2017 at 6:08 am
(January 7, 2017 at 3:49 am)scoobysnack Wrote: [quote='downbeatplumb' pid='1482271' dateline='1483723718']
I see people talk about "the left" and it doesn't resemble my stance at all and I would count myself as being on the left. It seems, that especially in the US the term is unrecognisable from the usage anywhere else.
To me the left is about equality and ensuring that people, all people have a reasonable quality of life. That the wealth is shared in a equitable fashion and no one is exploited.
The right are about intrenching inequality not providing for others, xenophobia and nationalism.
Quote:You know that's a fair question! It's hard to define actually especially for me because I used to be considered what's known in the US as a leftist. Liberals used to be all about free speech, against unjust wars, social justice, etc. It's kind of devolved though through moral relativeness to mean whatever they think it should be because there are no absolutes. For example, if words are hurtful, those words should be banished, even though it's free speech. If it's offensive, then the person who spoke such words should be blamed for the repercussions of said speech, or death since they brought it upon themselves, for not filtering their speech through the modern PC culture. Victims of drawing muhamed for example. It's almost become a PC crime to speak the truth about certain things.
I was with you up to.
Quote: Abortion for example is clearly the killing of unborn children.
Here.
I know its an Emotive issue but the results of not giving state run abortions are always worse.
Either you end up with more mouths to feed than be accommodated or you have women or their pertners doing all sorts of terrible things to try and get rid of the unwanted children.
Back street abortions were big in the UK, with people taking dodgy drugs and poking around with coat hangers and other things!
Quote: They like to call them fetuses. Tell that to the mother who has a party to reveal the sex of her unborn child. She doesn't refer to her child as a fetus, only those that intend to kill their kids say that. Abortion always will be the preemptive extermination of undesirables to purify the human race through the practice of eugenics, which was pushed as a freedom for women to have the choice to kill their unborn children.
We didn't count the children as anything until she was here months pregnant because miss carriages are so common in the early stages. Indeed that happened to us
Quote:Nationalism is simply self determination to rule through democratic sovereignty and representatives locally rather than globalism which is un-elected bureaucrats who rule outside the national borders. Borders are what maintain common culture, and prevent alien cultures from invasion and subversion.
That is a rather rosey view of nationalism and a childish view on globalism.
Nations can rule through democratic process, ( America does not count as a democracy by the way its a constitutional republic, Trump lost the popular vote but got elected anyway).
I have heard the phrase unelected linked to globalism before, but in Europe that meant the EU which held regular elections and as a body used proportional representation of delegates of member states.
Or are you talking of business globalisation which will happen no matter what.
"Alien cultures, invasion, subversion" really! you prove my point about xenophobia.
The world changes and adding diversity adds to your culture it doesn't take away.
In the UK our most popular dish, our national dish if you like is Chicken Tikka Massala we use shampoo and do yoga. In our shops are a range of polish sausages. These are additions and the UK is better for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykSnLQEFfm0
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.