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Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist?
RE: Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist?
Thought problem:

All human decisions follow deterministically from the initial conditions of the universe as decided by God.
In all the possible worlds in which people could exist they would make different decisions in each of them, some better, some worse.
In no possible world can everyone always make the best possible decision.
In least one possible world, the decisions made by people are the best they could be.
God created the best possible world.

In other words, it's like that scene in the last Matrix in which Neo meets The Architect and the wall monitors show all the possible (prior) though slightly different decisions he, Neo, made, except in this case The Architect could have had complete control to make one and only one happen.
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RE: Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist? - by Neo-Scholastic - January 9, 2017 at 5:55 pm

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