(January 18, 2017 at 3:11 am)Pulse Wrote:(January 17, 2017 at 11:54 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Omg, SHUSH it with the NDE stuff, Iggy! *looks around* Sick Ricky will hear!!!
Actually interesting that you'd bring that up, Dr Eben Alexander, author of Proof of Heaven, a once very staunch Atheist who did not even believe in free will, is now a staunch believer
(although not Christian) after an NDE. He describes in his book that during the NDE he was brain dead, as proved by his medical parameters at the time in the hospital, he is a
Neurosurgeon, so we can't just say he doesn't know brain chemistry at near death events. In fact people with NDE's often describe what took place, in detail, during their surgery even
though they were completely unconscious.
Yeah, being staunch about stuff probably isn't as good as knowing what you know and recognizing when you don't. Staunch atheists are as brittle as staunch theists, and either can convert to the other for a myriad of reasons owing to their propensity for remaining resolutely certain. But not all atheists are staunch. Plenty are defacto atheists for whom the question of belief in a god is highly unlikely but not a point of faith. Show me a good reason to believe in a god and I'll show you a new theist. But fair warning: others have tried and none of the apologetics crap has moved me one iota. Personal testimony - even less so.
NDE's are either living brain phenomenon under extreme conditions or else literally tales from the other side. Someone who has actually had the experience in question isn't necessarily any better informed than we are as which of those alternatives is correct. They may truly believe they've been to the other side and be entirely mistaken. They may be convinced but that doesn't mean we should be. I can think of no way to convince you that NDE's have a mundane explanation, so I won't try. But that is my working assumption and it is every bit as good as your own. Agree to disagree?
