RE: Why Anarcho-Capitalism Is a Canard and Its Implications for Atheism
January 18, 2017 at 10:33 pm
(January 18, 2017 at 10:11 pm)log Wrote:We have legal rights precisely for the reason that we own ourselves and our property. If someone harms us or takes possession of our property, we have the right to pursue charges against that person, whether they be strangers or people we love. If someone steals from us we might make the choice to forgive them and not get the law involved, but that will be our choice in such a matter. If someone abuses us though and takes advantage of our love and goodwill, most of us have limits that can be crossed, where we would have them arrested/jailed for something unforgivable -- even if they are family or friends.(January 18, 2017 at 10:09 pm)chimp3 Wrote: How about arguing against rape and theft to control those behaviors. Private property is a valid argument against those behaviors. God should have asked Marys permission before he knocked her up. Jesus should have paid for that donkey before he rode off on it. It is good to teach children that their body belongs to them so they can protect themselves against pedophile priests and preachers.
Even though your proposed solution, private property, must end in totalitarianism - lest anyone do what you think they oughtn't - and war - lest someone prevents you from doing what you wanna?
In this age of nuclear bombs, that can end us all.
(January 18, 2017 at 10:10 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: And this has what to do with property?
You seem to be taking the high road here. Do you own property?
Do you withhold food from your child or your spouse until they pay you for it? Do you threaten your spouse or your children with violence if they should touch your stuff? I'm guessing no, because you love them. That's what love has to do with property.
According to the laws of the land, I own property - the laws of the land threaten force against any who might take my possessions. That's unavoidable in today's society.
However, as we both know, the argumentum ad hominem tu quoque is a fallacy. We're talking about the way things are and how they should be on first principles - I don't much care for personal attacks.