RE: Why Anarcho-Capitalism Is a Canard and Its Implications for Atheism
January 19, 2017 at 1:05 am
(January 19, 2017 at 12:55 am)Khemikal Wrote:Well, I guess the honeymoon is over. It was fun while it lasted, but when the personal attacks start flowing, I be a-going.(January 19, 2017 at 12:39 am)log Wrote: You've grown up and been acculturated to the omnipresent system of threats. It's like the Matrix.Or...and I'm just spitballing here, no one is threatening me? See, that's the trouble with linking a wiki on the monopoly of violence and then bullshitting me about property law and god and jesus and atheism.
Quote:You call them "laws." I bet you don't go 90 down past the local elementary school during school hours - at least in part because of the threat.I don't go 90 anywhere, shits dangerous. If you're the kind of person who doesn't do it because "they" frown on it...those punishments were meant for you, not me, lol. I don;t have to be compelled to slow down for schoolchildren any more than I have to be compelled not to burn my neighbors house to the ground.
Quote:Even if you voluntarily go along with those who would otherwise compel you, you're not exactly "free" in some social sense to do otherwise, are you? The laws or agreements and penalties attached thereto form part of your risk assessment, whether you perform the calculation explicitly as I do or not.I find that, by and large, the risk of punishment is far removed from both myself and my actions. I don't even worry about the punishments when I -do- break the law.
(January 19, 2017 at 12:43 am)log Wrote: Well, do you deny that people claim sides or join social organizations - neighborhoods, cities, states, countries, PTAs, churches, and the like - for the social benefits like enhanced security, property accumulation, moral superiority, sexual access, and so on?We're playing an elaborate game of apologist bingo at this point. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, bury them in bullshit, eh?
Of course not. How can you tell if one is a TrueBeliever? Maybe they only like the Raiders because... well, I don't know, are the Raiders even still a thing? But the point is, people do things for reasons sometimes different than stated, and that difference is detected when they behave in ways precluded by their stated beliefs.