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Jesus did not rise from the dead -- My debate opening statement.
RE: Jesus did not rise from the dead -- My debate opening statement.
(January 19, 2017 at 1:01 pm)Drich Wrote:
(January 18, 2017 at 1:45 am)Astonished Wrote: Drich, your problem is that your mentality is stunted to that of a child because of the incapability you have to see the scriptures for the falsehoods that they are. The assumption you cling to, that there is any truth to them whatsoever, is what's keeping there from being any headway in this argument. You bring up any topic at all from the bible and it's like having farted, it brings nothing whatsoever to the discussion and really just makes us wrinkle our noses, and at the same time, somehow, you don't get embarrassed for having done so.

When we prove 2 + 2 doesn't equal five, we can stop talking about that. When your math textbook is full of nothing but such errors, we toss the damn thing out and get a better one. You telling us that if we twist our heads around backwards like in the Exorcist will allow us to see that 2 + 2 does equal five, is not only still true, but also demonstrably harmful to us, and again, you not being able to see that just compounds the problem.

You can debate anyone you like but your inability to feel ashamed of yourself for being such a jackass doesn't mean you shouldn't feel that way, and eventually we're going to get tired of indulging your bullshit. Honestly, watch one video of AronRa's, he shreds the arguments that have been accumulating centuries more stale crap in a very eloquent way. Any debate taken part in really involves nothing more than the theists playing word games to try to change definitions and bullshit their way into gaining a point (which is only anecdotal in nature anyway, never actually scientific), or flat-out lying. I literally can't listen to theist portions of youtube debates anymore, there is no significant difference between any of them and no matter how many times every single point is proven wrong, there's never anything new, or any real nuance to differentiate between them.

So... Rather than speak topically, and or try and defend anything topical... Your best intellectual efforts are centered around tearing me down as a person with insults and name calling leaving with only one recourse for me, and that is to side with you...

Man growing up for you must have sucked.

(January 19, 2017 at 11:37 am)Stimbo Wrote: I don't seem to see any mention of a soulless son of a monkey man, nor any begging to be let into the ark. Just talk of a body count. Were you trying to overdramatise in order to make a point, or is this one of those interpretation/revelation things?

Ahh, no.

This is an over dramatised version of the ark being flooded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IMBJyztU2Q

What I was suggesting was those who mocked moses about building an ark/monster boat so far away from any viable water supply, would also be the first to begg to be let in after it began to flood.

Not an unreasonable possibility.

Couple that with everything beside man with a soul surviving that bottle neck in our collective History it is not unfathomable that souless man to be among those wanting to live.

(January 19, 2017 at 11:47 am)Minimalist Wrote: Too bad in Chapter 6 that the fucktard was commanded to gather two of every animal.  One of those little re-writes which drives assholes like you crazy!

keep reading 6.

(January 19, 2017 at 12:07 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I'd be careful with that one Drich, it allows for dating and falsification of your entire genesis story...and..as you know, no genesis, no play.

how so?

(January 19, 2017 at 12:14 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Drich, yes, ancient civilizations told tales of great floods. Leaving aside your comical need to believe that they are all referring to the Biblical flood, can you think of why they might have had flood stories? Come on. It's not that hard.

And let's pin down your timeline a bit. When did the flood happen? Telling me 'around the time of Noah' is cute but not useful.

The bible does not give a date, so I don't know. Just around the rime of Noah is the best I can do biblicaly speaking.

And if you've research those 'great flood stories' (read the link I left) most tell of a singular world wide event. Granted different heros survive said event, but it is always the same flood.

In the Genesis account Ham is the wayward son who descendants can easily make up for those other cultures those opposing heros that survive the flood. However in the end the common thread is 'the great flood.'

Incidentally yes, it did, because of people like you. See where I'm going with this?

But because you refuse to see any value in facts or even the concept of honesty at all, why waste time being topical? Giving you some food for thought about the blinders you're wearing is all that can really be done. If you care about being intellectually honest (not a big priority among the religious, it has to be said) in any way, shape or form, take that to heart and see if stepping outside your bubble helps you expand the limits you've imposed on your own intelligence. Because otherwise you're doing the equivalent of handing me soiled toilet paper and telling me you see great wisdom in it with me trying in vain to explain what it actually is that you're holding in your hands and why you should wash them immediately after even if your imaginary friend says there's no reason to do that.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: Jesus did not rise from the dead -- My debate opening statement. - by Astonished - January 19, 2017 at 1:32 pm

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