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Doubt in disbelief
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RE: Doubt in disbelief
(January 23, 2017 at 12:53 pm)sneroul the thinker Wrote: possibly they changed some things but 70000 people is a hard lie and there is photo's of the crowd

A bunch of mostly ignorant peasants, with religious predilections, all gather expecting to see verification of their religious beliefs, and miracle of miracles, the get what they were expecting.

Please...

There are so many things wrong with this story, that I don't even know where to start.

The sun supposedly dances around in the sky, yet not a single astronomer anywhere in the area, or the world, detects a thing?!

"Well, but that is part of the miracle. That it did not effect the world, only the locals". Welll... isn't that convenient?

Other possible explanations:

There was a known huge dust cloud over western Europe at the time from massive dust storms in the Sahara that year. Which definitely caused optical effects in the sky seen in other parts of Europe.

A sundog.

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But screw the more likely natural explanations. Must have been a god.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Doubt in disbelief - by snerie - January 23, 2017 at 12:20 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by vorlon13 - January 23, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by snerie - January 23, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Crossless1 - January 23, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Alex K - January 23, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Minimalist - January 23, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - January 25, 2017 at 1:24 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by snerie - January 23, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Mister Agenda - January 23, 2017 at 12:56 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by downbeatplumb - January 23, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Pat Mustard - January 24, 2017 at 2:59 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by AceBoogie - January 26, 2017 at 11:14 am
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Asmodee - January 26, 2017 at 12:39 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by AceBoogie - January 26, 2017 at 11:22 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Asmodee - January 27, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by AceBoogie - January 27, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Angrboda - January 26, 2017 at 5:53 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by brewer - January 23, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by snerie - January 23, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by ApeNotKillApe - January 23, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by snerie - January 23, 2017 at 12:40 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by ApeNotKillApe - January 23, 2017 at 12:50 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by vorlon13 - January 23, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by snerie - January 23, 2017 at 12:53 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Simon Moon - January 23, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Simon Moon - January 23, 2017 at 2:01 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by brewer - January 23, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Alex K - January 23, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Asmodee - January 24, 2017 at 5:23 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by ApeNotKillApe - January 23, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by ApeNotKillApe - January 23, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Whateverist - January 23, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Autolite - January 23, 2017 at 4:51 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Thumpalumpacus - January 23, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Crossless1 - January 23, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Minimalist - January 24, 2017 at 1:25 am
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Crossless1 - January 24, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by ApeNotKillApe - January 23, 2017 at 3:14 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Mr Greene - January 23, 2017 at 3:29 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Jesster - January 23, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by ApeNotKillApe - January 23, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by J a c k - January 23, 2017 at 3:52 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Thumpalumpacus - January 23, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Cephus - January 23, 2017 at 4:48 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by ignoramus - January 23, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by pocaracas - January 23, 2017 at 5:28 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Cephus - January 23, 2017 at 6:23 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Alex K - January 23, 2017 at 6:41 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Cephus - January 23, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Simon Moon - January 23, 2017 at 8:47 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by brewer - January 23, 2017 at 10:48 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Cephus - January 23, 2017 at 11:40 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 23, 2017 at 5:29 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by vorlon13 - January 23, 2017 at 6:09 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by ignoramus - January 24, 2017 at 12:47 am
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by snerie - January 24, 2017 at 1:22 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Simon Moon - January 24, 2017 at 4:51 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by brewer - January 25, 2017 at 2:36 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Whateverist - January 26, 2017 at 1:10 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Whateverist - January 24, 2017 at 1:36 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Cephus - January 24, 2017 at 2:36 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by pocaracas - January 24, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by Aoi Magi - January 24, 2017 at 5:22 pm
RE: Doubt in disbelief - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2017 at 8:21 pm

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