(January 27, 2017 at 1:39 am)Astonished Wrote:(January 24, 2017 at 9:33 am)Little Rik Wrote: Calm down Ast with offensive language.
Nobody force you to believe anything.
We are both here in this forum to have a chat about things of interest.
Nothing to get angry about but let me say my point of view on some issues.
1) God doesn't have any obligation with anybody.
The game of creation is his game and nobody has the right to challenge that like it or not.
Suppose you dream about a tiger or anything else.
Do you think that that tiger got any right to interfere with your dream?
You can do what you like with your dream and that is fair.
The best way to deal with that if you are a tiger is to go back ASAP into the creator mind so you can be
the one in charge once again and not the object of a dream.
Humans can do this but it require to understand how the system works and by floating in the materialistic world that is very very difficult that is why a proper system to deal with that problem is needed.
By whining and getting angry as you do that is impossible.
2) Theists as well as atheists always claim a lot of things.
I am not responsible for what other theists may say.
Have a lovely day.
Of course, now you're going to back-pedal so it doesn't look like you ever said you had all the answers because you're so special. Or that it's our fault that god doesn't care to communicate with us. Even if the world is his dream as you state, if there is any desire to interact in any way with his dream and/or impose certain laws or require a level of devotion, that it would not be communicated effectively is a testament to how woefully bewilderingly stupid that god is, and no such being with a level of intellect far below that of its own creations (that in and of itself should really tell you something) could possibly concoct the design of the universe and its various physical attributes. If you're going to be reasonable and say that it is impossible for, if there is a deistic creator deity, anyone to possibly conceive of its motivations, desires or presence, I might actually say I respect you. But everything you've said so far makes you sound like a dishonest hypocrite and so unless you're really going to surprise me, I'm suspending judgment til I see it. There, no foul language and perfectly civil. Happy now? This doesn't have a tenth of the emotion I'm feeling talking to this brick wall you've erected around your sense of honesty and integrity.
Your problem Ast is that you can not grasp the motivations why God does or doesn't something.
You keep on imply that God (if exist) should communicate but to understand why he (she) doesn't communicate with everybody you should also understand how his game works and you do not know that.
Animals follow the instinct so they are driven by that force towards higher degrees of consciousness.
That means towards human life but humans have already got enough degree of consciousness so instinct
play very little importance.
Now humans are not driven by that instinct force anymore and therefore the free will apply in the good or the bad.
Because of that free will God keep out of sight in order to not interfere in their decisions.
Only when humans understand God cosmic game God show up once again and as directions to proceed
are needed God is always there to teach.
This of course is only valid for those who are motivated to reach higher degree of spirituality not for those
which the materialistic game play an important role in their lives.
