RE: Milo Yiannopoulos; the man twitter banned got a book deal. Currently #2 on Amazon.
February 2, 2017 at 2:48 pm
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2017 at 2:50 pm by FatAndFaithless.)
(February 2, 2017 at 2:44 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: It's a horrible viewpoint, to be sure, but I think Orochi is only talking about the extreme.
At some point, a person whose speech is inciting violence should be held accountable for that speech. At what point does a person who does something like screaming racial epithets in a black neighborhood become responsible for doing so? For another extreme, if someone came to a crowd of children and started talking about raping them, would it be out of bounds for a parent to attack that person rather than call the police and wait for them to show up? I mean they can remove their own child, but what about all of the other children there?
Does that person deserve to be attacked? I think there is an argument there. And not just an "I want to make him hurt" retributive thing.
Now does this in any way apply to Milo? No. This is just some extreme example. For the most part, if you constantly spew the hatred that Milo does, you should expect and prepare for violence, but you don't deserve it. I do think he pushes the envelope specifically to piss people off enough so that he can use the outbursts to advance his agenda. That adds an extra layer of sliminess to it.
Orochi has explicitly said that those who assault the ones expressing the speech shouldn't be arrested. That's the biggest thing for me.
And I already touched on the inciting violence/threat-making point in my first post. Obviously if they're inciting violence or making threats, they can be arrested for that - that's already illegal. I'm specifically talking about the response of others to the speech. Responding violently to legal expression of speech is not allowable. And as is obvious from previous posts, Orochi clearly thinks Milo does deserve it, contrary to what you say in your post.
Sorry, I didn't expect this to be a controversial view - that responding to speech with violence is something that should not happen, and we should take every measure to punish those that do.
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