RE: Political Correctness Gone Mad?
April 26, 2009 at 1:46 pm
(This post was last modified: April 26, 2009 at 1:49 pm by bozo.)
(April 26, 2009 at 3:23 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(April 25, 2009 at 6:59 pm)bozo Wrote: Do you not appreciate how offensive golliwogs are to most black people?
Do you not appreciate how offensive atheism is to many (probably most) theists?
Are you going to stop being an atheist?
Kyu
(April 25, 2009 at 9:28 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Would you show all the unsanitized versions of Tom & Jerry? Laurel & Hardy?
I find it laughable sometimes with the seemingly extreme pushing on moral boundaries in modern culture we censor this stuff so savagely.
What about all those dodgy 70's sit coms? Even worse dodgy 70's comedians?
I'd watch any and all of them if I felt like it ... heard of the "off-switch" or changing channels?
People found the Brand/Ross affair too much and complained leading to massive outrage in the press, personally (whilst conceding that they probably did go a bit far ... am I ever going to know the real truth?) I found the media's hypocrisy, the "anger" of sanctimonious asswipes and the over-reaction of the BBC pathetic.
Love Thy Neighbour (one of those sitcoms I assume you refer to) was far more offensive mainly because it was complete and utter shyte whereas "'Til Death Do Us Part" (admittedly 60's but running into the 70's, featuring an exceptionally bigoted Alf Garnet played by Warren Mitchell) was probably far more offensive yet exceptionally clever.
It's worth noting that these "70's sitcoms" you seem to be slamming also included "Fawlty Towers", "The Good Life" (personally I preferred the US series of the same name), "Last of the Summer Wine", "Rising Damp", "Porridge", "Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em" (I hated this even whilst recognising that Crawford's portrayal of Frank Spencer was very clever), "Open All Hours" & "To The Manor Born" ... indeed many consider this decade to be "the golden era" of British sitcom. Oh, and the 70's also featured the awesome "Reginald Perrin" sitcoms (much better than the awful remake the BBC showed this week) so I think I'm quite inclined to agree that it was a very good time for British Comedy.
Kyu
I don't accept your comparing atheist/deist interaction is remotely the same as what a golliwog represents.
As regards sitcoms, you appear to be missing the point. Love thy Neighbour and Til Death were groundbreaking in that the " heroes " of both were pig-ignorant racists. The joke was on them and their ignorant racism.
(April 25, 2009 at 9:13 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(April 25, 2009 at 6:59 pm)bozo Wrote: Do you not appreciate how offensive golliwogs are to most black people?I do indeed, and I would ask them to explain how they can rationalize such offense when it is common knowledge in today's society that golliwogs are not an accurate representation of black people, just as Bratz are not an accurate representation of white people. If people were buying golliwogs and giving them to their children saying "this is a black person", or "look at this doll of a black person", I would object. However this is not what people are doing, and this is certainly not what I am going to do with my kids.
Words and depictions will last forever, but interpretations can change in an instant.
Maybe you should try going out for a day in a black working class area, Brixton maybe, and meet and greet the black people with a cheery " hiya golliwog , how you doin? ".
I'm sure you would find it ever so easy to ask them to " rationalise " their response to you.
