Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE?

[Little Rik]

How predictable Prik to see your head vanish up your arsehole.

(Hint: I don't have an agenda.)

Oh, I see......
You don't have an agenda do you?

Well well Stim I already knew that you haven't got an agenda of yours except for having a long long
agenda of offensive language that you use in place of something that make any sense but I guess is far too late for you to change considering that physically speaking you have grown up.
But let us speak about the agenda that I mean.
In a previous post you allege that some people have a vested interest in lying and an agenda to sell me
so I did asked you to produce evidence that that is the case.


WHERE IS THAT EVIDENCE STIM?  

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You are an absolute joke yog.
You ask me for evidence but when I do ask you the same you twist the game to a different direction.
I did asked you what is the difference between an NDE and an hallucination. NO ANSWER. [here]
I did asked you to give evidence that the consciousness is a product of the brain. NO ANSWER [here]
I did asked you to give evidence that physical science is able to understand consciousness. NO ANSWER [never asked]
I did asked you to give evidence that a brain under stress can put together an NDE. NO answer. [never asked; here]

And yet you say that I provided "piles of information".  Which is it, Rik, NO ANSWER or "piles of information"?  You can't even keep your lies straight.

Not only is this a bunch of distracting bullshit, it's not even true.  I have several times given evidence that consciousness is a product of the brain.  You just suck at listening.  So here we see you lying again.  Like I said, your question was just a pretext for a bullshit answer.   And here we see you claiming to have asked questions and got no answer.  It's bullshit.  You got your answers, you just want to play games about who isn't answering questions.

Well my question has remained the same throughout:  Do you have evidence that NDEs occur when the brain is completely shut down?  NO ANSWER.

Regardless, you're the one that claims that NDEs are proof of afterlife and I've debunked all your "proof."  That's my answer to your nonsense.

You don't fool me yog.
All you can fool are those fools that think that you are smart by producing piles and piles of informations
put together by some mental masturbators that fool themselves thinking that they can understand consciousness using physical science knowledge.

Piles of information?  It's called "evidence."  I can understand why you're not familiar with the term, seeing that you never provide any.

One more piles o'crap yog  but let us see in detail.

1) Piles of information do not necessary mean piles of evidence.
In fact your piles of information equal to a pile of manure.

2) It is true that when the brain get damage the mind get affected.
That is natural considering that the two are stuck together but unfortunately you do not consider that there are several level of mind and the outer mind is very different from the subconscious mind.
While the outer mind get affected when the brain get damage the subconscious mind does not.
If the parallelism between body-brain and consciousness come to an end the body die but that is not the case for the subconscious mind that will separate from that dying body.
In other word your so called evidence that the consciousness is a product of the brain is just one more pile o'crap.

3) OBE and NDEs have something in common but with a difference.
While many people can have an OBE not everybody will have an NDE.
NDEs are there for a reason which is to learn while OBE are not.
God knows whether a person is ready to accept the learning or not so NDEs will only be given to them.
Many people have OBE experience and never experience God so you may draw conclusions that God doesn't exist and those who say that God exist after their NDE are just talking rubbish.

4) As far as NDEs experiences occur when the brain is 100% off you only have to read the hundreds of experiences from those who had them.
In these cases qualified doctors declared the person dead.
http://www.nderf.org/Archives/exceptional.html