RE: Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE?
February 6, 2017 at 1:17 pm
(This post was last modified: February 6, 2017 at 1:33 pm by Angrboda.)
(February 6, 2017 at 9:43 am)Little Rik Wrote: Your experts allege that an NDE can happen in the brain by the brain even when the blood and oxygen doesn't flow in the brain anymore and it is the brain that create the illusion that an NDE is happening.
That is not possible.
As far as the consciousness left the body-brain and can see his body from above then the brain is unable to do anything.
It is the consciousness the driver or the one that start the action of thinking.
The consciousness can not possibly be in two places at the same time.
Or it is inside the body-brain or it is outside so if it is outside the brain is unable to do anything even if the cells are not dead yet.
It's possible that the consciousness never actually leaves the body. That the experience of leaving the body is a hallucination. What do you think is generating the feeling of being "inside your head" at this very moment? The brain has powerful machinery for creating the illusion that there is a something that is 'you' that is inside your head looking out. That same machinery is used to create the sensation that you are outside your body. If it can create the illusion that you are inside your body, why can't it create the illusion that you're outside your body? What, do you think your consciousness has "where am I" feelers to tell that it's inside your head? No, the where of your consciousness is generated by the brain along with everything else.
Just think. Your consciousness feels that it is inside your head. Which is doing that, consciousness or your brain?
Quote:The researchers tracked down a woman who is able to enter this “out of body experience” (or OOBE) state at will, and hooked her up to a brain scanner. According to their paper, published in Frontiers of Human Neuroscience, the woman saw herself floating in the air above herself, watching herself move while feeling completely unaware of her physical body.
While she was getting her float on, the MRI showed a deactivation of her visual cortex, while the part of her brain responsible for imagining body movement lit up. This particular portion of the brain is responsible for “kinesthetic imagery,” the thing that allows you understand how your body relates to the world around it. It seems that this particular combination of brain function allowed the woman to feel as though she was floating outside of her physical body.
With this new information on-hand, the researchers are saying that OOBEs are basically a very specific type of hallucination triggered by a certain neurological mechanism.
http://www.themarysue.com/out-of-body-explained/
Quote: In a study of 264 subjects with sleep paralysis[3], Giorgio Buzzi and Fabio Cirignotta found that about 11% of their subjects (28 people) "viewed themselves lying on the bed, generally from a location above the bed" (Buzzi 2116). As Buzzi points out, however, these out-of-body experiences often included false perceptions of the physical environment:
Quote:I invited these people to do the following simple reality tests: trying to identify objects put in unusual places; checking the time on the clock; and focusing on a detail of the scene, and comparing it with reality.
I received a feedback [sic] from five individuals. Objects put in unusual places (eg, on top of the wardrobe) were never identified during out-of-body experiences. Clocks also proved to be unreliable: a woman with nightly episodes of sleep paralysis had two out-of-body experiences in the same night, and for each the clock indicated an impossible time.... Finally, in all cases but one, some slight but important differences in the details were noted: "I looked at 'me' sleeping peacefully in the bed while I wandered about. Trouble is the 'me' in the bed was wearing long johns ... I have never worn such a thing" (Buzzi 2116-2117).
Buzzi concludes that because these experiences contained out-of-body discrepancies and failed his other 'reality tests,' his subjects' out-of-body imagery must have been derived from memory and imagination rather than from the physical environment at the time (2117).
https://infidels.org/library/modern/keit...HNDEs.html
What are you telling me, that the woman hallucinated that she was wearing long johns while her consciousness was outside her body? Whoah, if that can happen there's no end to the possible false perceptions that consciousness can have!
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