RE: Political Correctness Gone Mad?
April 27, 2009 at 2:38 pm
(This post was last modified: April 27, 2009 at 2:49 pm by bozo.)
(April 27, 2009 at 1:45 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 4:32 pm)bozo Wrote: SHRUGS....I don't think I can help you any more.
Implicitly meaning you're right and I'm wrong? More like fire and forget I'd say ... fire off random abuse (and it was implied) and forget to make an actual point. Well I'll just assume you're not capable of making one until you actually do.
Kyu
SIGH...it was you that fired off the first " shrug ", mine was more ironic.
The " actual point " was about Love Thy Neighbour, which you think failed to make its point. Now I'll agree with you insofaras it wasn't an hilariously funny programme, in fact it was emarrassing at times, but in the context of undermining racism it very much hit the mark. If you remember, it featured a very unusual, possibly first-ever sitcom where an articulate and attractive black couple were contrasted with a slobbish white couple who thought they were superior merely by virtue of their colour. ( more so the male than the woman, to be fair ). The male character was all that was bad about British working-class racism of the times.
Do I make my point clearly enough for you?
(April 26, 2009 at 7:24 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 6:32 pm)bozo Wrote: Oh dear, you just don't get it, do you? Or do you want to? The dolls have been taken from the shelves for reasons I gave to Padraic earlier today. You seek to deny their history. Well so be it.I don't deny their history, I simply think it is irrelevant today given that attitudes have changed.
I'm unfamiliar with The Street-Porter story, so I can't comment from knowledge. If the real issue was calling somebody a bitch then I don't see it as racist, but is the lady in question racist? I don't know and neither can you know.
And as for your criticism of anti-racists, well frankly I think its bollocks.
My challenge to you to test your theory amongst the black populace stays.
And to you and your black friends, do you think we now live in a non-racist, pro-equalist Britain?
I agree, we cannot know whether Street Porter is racist or not, however this wasn't the issue. The issue was whether her outburst at a black lady was a racist attack. It doesn't matter if Street Porter is secretly racist or not, she should be able to call a neighbour a "bitch" if she wishes. Even if she had no real reason to call her a bitch, I stand by it. People insult other people all the time for no reason, and matters shouldn't change just because a black lady is involved.
You think my criticism of anti-racists is bollocks but you don't say why. Are we having a discussion or not?
Which "theory" are you talking about? If you want me to go and tell black people they are "golliwogs" or other racist slurs then I am not going to, and I've given my reasons why.
As for my friends, I think they would all agree that in the area in which they live, racism isn't an issue at all. I've never heard of any racist attacks in Egham, or even in my home town. I would say that they all think where they live is a very equal place.
History is never irrelevant, it just suits some arguments to claim it is.
I thought I agreed that calling someone a name like " bitch " is not of itself racist.
You label anti-racists as racist and wonder why I say bollocks?
The theory is whether a golliwog is the benign toy you seem to claim it is. I don't expect you to act on my challenge but I thought you were intelligent enough to see the problem. You probably do, but for whatever reason you avoid it.
Do you and your friends have a wider perspective than Egham for judging if racism still exists in Britain or not?
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?