Where the fuck are these people?

[Huggy Bear]

As for your position on owning slaves, after it was pointed out that your context was bs, you backpedaled hard, why did you backpedal if there was no controversy? Go ahead and challenge me on that if you want, I have no problems pulling receipts.

As for "cops are justified in beating up black people.", I'm trying to legitimately give you a chance to explain yourself, so again provide the context you're speaking of.

All I can see is you saying you didn't understand then, you don't understand now, and you definitely won't understand anything from this point onwards.

You're not even on the radar huggy.

A fun fact is that thump is giving you kudos now for saying that what I said about slavery was bullshit but actually gave me kudos at the time for my explanation about context.  Think what you want about that.

Fine I'll provide the context for the one about slavery, I keep asking you to put the other in context (since I don't remember you making that statement) and you refuse.

I think this is one topic you're likely to get a lot of dishonest answers about, also I think it's a question that depends a lot on the circumstances anyway you look at it.
If I was in a situation where I was part of a huge rich family who made money from having slaves who were black I doubt I'd give up my vast fortune, large house, secure family and farm and whatever else just because I feel sorry for a few black people, and I am a person with a lot of empathy in comparison with people I know, but I imagine in a world full of unfairness, poverty and death a few slaves wouldn't weigh heavy on my guilt, since round the time of slaves there were child chimney sweeps and mill workers, people dying of all sorts, and it was a harsh dog eat dog world.

But if it's just a case of me talking about something I believe in even if it will result in social disapproval  then I wouldn't really care.

*emphasis mine*

When it was pointed out to you that there were white people who were against slavery called ABOLITIONISTS in that time period, it really leaves you with no justification to hold that particular view, hence the backpedaling...

Look, even back in those days there were white people vehemently opposed to slavery usually referred to as abolitionists. You made it very clear that YOU personally would not be among the abolitionists.

Now do you get it?

Oh ok, I do get where you're coming from now but I disagree.

The point I was making is that I admit to sometimes being morally weak.

I watch some hardcore porn now that I probably shouldn't watch, I'm sure some of the people in those films are exploited but I watch them anyway.

When I said if I was a rich slave owner I'd find it difficult to give up those slaves in an era where slavery was acceptable, what I mean is that I can imagine myself making excuses for the fact I have slaves and continuing being morally wrong but comfortable and secure.
I believe anyone who is even slightly morally weak in one instance might be weak in others.
If you're the type of person to bow down to peer pressure to make fun of someone who's to say you wouldn't join in with the nazis for example.
Everyone likes to think they'd be one of the good guys in situations like that looking back in historical hindsight

I might be being pessimistic and underestimating my moral character,  maybe I'd free all my slaves, I don't know, given other circumstances I'm sure I'd join in the abolition movement.

*emphasis mine*
Like I said, i don't have a problem pulling receipts.