(February 23, 2017 at 11:17 am)Whateverist Wrote:(February 22, 2017 at 9:55 pm)SteveII Wrote: The distinction is that a "no god" epistemology gives you subjective value/meaning/purpose which leave it open to a matter of opinion and a theistic epistemology provides objective grounding with God providing value/meaning/purpose which is not open to opinion or changing over time.
If an atheist thinks abortion or euthanasia is abhorrent, then they must admit it is their opinion and other have a right to their opinion. Hopefully the "others" opinions don't matter more than yours when it comes to your baby or your grandmother. A theist has no such obligation to recognize someone else's opinion.
I wonder if you feel the same way about political systems which lack a monarchy. Are modern secular governments likewise deficient in value/meaning/purpose?
Why would a monarchy be a qualifier? Any government is a reflection of some assortment of values, philosophy, traditions, goals--the combination of which cannot be described as anything other than subjective.
