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Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
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Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
"Nothing fails like success, because we don't learn anything. We only learn from failure. our successes only confirm our superstitions."
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
I think we learn much more from failure.
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for a battle to commence then KPLOW, I hit em with the illness of my quill, Im endowed..with certain unalienable skills....  

-ERB


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RE: Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
(August 5, 2019 at 5:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: "Nothing fails like success, because we don't learn anything. We only learn from failure. Our successes only confirm our superstitions."
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.


If you want material advantages, a success is a success.  You can learn by becoming a success and maintaining your success.  

Although we may learn more from failures, sometimes we just learn how to fail rather than how to succeed.

On the other hand, I do know successful people who confuse their expertise with knowledge of other areas.  They can become arrogant and fail to listen to people who have other kinds of expertise.

So I think the saying points out an important observation, but it's too much of an over-statement.  It comes close to rationalizing failures.
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RE: Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
Tangentially related, I work for a very successful S&P 400 company that has a philosophy of embracing failure as a learming tool. If you're going to fail, recognize it early and course correct.
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RE: Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
(August 5, 2019 at 5:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: "Nothing fails like success, because we don't learn anything. We only learn from failure. our successes only confirm our superstitions."
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.


I think people who have never really been previously rewarded with success, but who nonetheless persevere with high levels of effort until eventually succeed is attained, are few and far in between.  I think majority of those who persevere and attain greater success were buttressed by confidence built upon preior lesser successes.

So while failure teaches all how to succeed, success teaches most to strive for greater success.
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RE: Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
(August 5, 2019 at 5:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: our successes only confirm our superstitions."

I'm curious about this part.

Why does success only confirm superstition

Couldn't it also show that our methods, analyses, new decisions, etc. etc. are working?
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RE: Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
It's a quite true quote.
The PURPOSE of life is to replicate our DNA ................. (from Darwin)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)
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RE: Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
At work.

Well..... I try and fail multiple times.

That way I can be quite sure I've fekked up what ever it is correctly.

Blush



Tongue
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RE: Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
In many cases, we must learn if we are to succeed.
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RE: Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True
(August 5, 2019 at 6:44 pm)Alan V Wrote:
(August 5, 2019 at 5:47 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: "Nothing fails like success, because we don't learn anything. We only learn from failure. Our successes only confirm our superstitions."
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.


If you want material advantages, a success is a success.  You can learn by becoming a success and maintaining your success.  

Although we may learn more from failures, sometimes we just learn how to fail rather than how to succeed.

On the other hand, I do know successful people who confuse their expertise with knowledge of other areas.  They can become arrogant and fail to listen to people who have other kinds of expertise.

So I think the saying points out an important observation, but it's too much of an over-statement.  It comes close to rationalizing failures.

IOW, would you say the all inclusive language of the quote takes it beyond the realm of truth? Perhaps it's tangential to truth?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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