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Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE?
RE: Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE?
(February 28, 2017 at 9:17 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(February 28, 2017 at 7:59 am)Little Rik Wrote: In order to understand how the system works you should put yourself in God's shoes so to speak. ...
To other people God show whatever they believe before their NDE and to anyone who did not believe in anything God show the nirvana in different ways so God always act in the interest of the person regardless his or her beliefs.

OK I've put myself in god's perspective and it still makes no sense because in holy books like Quran and Bible god demands killing of people that don't believe in god described in given holy book. So why would god suddenly tolerate people when they die and believe in different god while being totally filled with jealousy and rage during their lives when they believe in different one?


Wrong again mate.  Smile

God did never write any so called holy books.
We do not know who did write these books but we know that different people give different interpretation to the same story and we know that God so called rage and hell was invented by the caste of the priests in order to control people mind.
When you say that you put yourself in God's perspective based on the priests interpretations of the so called holy books you just do not know what you talk about.  Lightbulb



Quote:The other thing is that Howard Storm never died in medical terms. This is by his own admission from his book "My Descent Into Death":
"The doctors in the United States said that I should have lived for five hours. Yet no one examined me during the nine hours I waited in the Paris hospital for the operation. It is impossible to claim that I died, since I received no medical attention during that time. ... Whether I died during my Near-Death Experience depends upon your definition of death. There is no question that I was dying."

So Storm didn't die but was just very sick and sick people do hallucinate and rant and rave.


No Mess.
Wrong again.
Storm just say that he did not know whether he was dead or alive.
Leave it to that.
As far as saying that his NDE was an hallucination that is not possible considering that his experience go hand in hand with all other NDEs beside an hallucination wouldn't be remember in such a clear, sharp and vivid way as he did remembered.


(February 28, 2017 at 7:59 am)Little Rik Wrote: Stories usually do not turn a non believer into a strong believer.
Stories are quickly forgotten while NDEs are not.

Quote:Sure, most of us consider reports of Elvis sightings after his death in 1977 to be untrue because there was no evidence. There are just too many wild stories out there to safely accept all of them or even a small fraction of them without demanding evidence first. When it comes to telling stories, it is easy for people to lie, make honest mistakes about the facts, or to have even hallucinated or dreamed up the entire episode.
It is possible that some of them might be true, but which ones? For you it's the NDE stories you believe in all of them for some reason. Can you tell us that reason?
Look at it like this: asking for evidence is just a smart way of doing business in life, nothing personal. It's not rude. It's safe. If you don't want to risk having a bunch of nonsense take up valuable real estate in your head, then consistently ask for evidence when confronted with unusual stories.


Wrong again and again Mess.
Stories about Elvis are just stories for the simple reason that such a stories vary after the first time that they are told and are not remembered in a clear, sharp and vivid way.
NDEs on the other hand do not vary even after years and years.
If you do not believe me go and ask those who say that they saw Elvis and ask about the same details that they recount the first time years ago.
Their story would be totally different and most details would be lost completely.  Lightbulb
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