(March 4, 2017 at 11:15 pm)Jesster Wrote:(March 4, 2017 at 11:03 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Both the chocolate and the brain function are objective. They can both be observed, at least in theory. What part of it do you claim is subjective-but-not-objective?
The fact that the brain is functioning is objective. The electrical impulses can potentially be measured and others can piece that data together. Nobody can experience your brain function first-hand in the way that you do except for you, though. That part is subjective. Those are also two separate things.
Have you tried opening a dictionary lately?
Subjective: based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
Objective: (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
This is fun because I'm usually on your side of this argument. The word you're looking for is "a correlate to a thing is not the thing."
The experience of ideas is certainly subjective and not objective. However, that's from inside the system. For anyone outside you, everything you think and do is 100% objective. They can see your facial movements, watch your brain blood flow in an fMRI, stick electrodes on your head and so on.
So are you arguing that a moral system is only an idea to be experienced subjectively, and not more than that?
