(March 5, 2017 at 12:49 am)bennyboy Wrote:(March 5, 2017 at 12:07 am)Jesster Wrote: You started out well with the definitions of subject and object. However, there is one objective reality, period. It can be perceived in different ways, but those perceptions don't change the reality. You are still trying to conflate reality and the perception of reality one may have.
*sigh* This has drifted so far off the topic of the thread, and I know I am partly to blame. This should be a discussion about morality. I really hate being in the philosophy section with you, benny.
"There is one objective reality, period." What does that mean, and why are you so sure that the number is not zero, two, or infinity?
As for conflating reality and the perception of reality-- that perception is ALSO part of objective reality, unless you posit more than one reality-- one for experience and one for objective reality. Are you saying that mind and matter exist in separate realities?
Not sure why you're *sigh*-ing about me doing philosophy in the philosophy section. You can hate it if you like, that's up to you.
You are looking at the difference between subjectivity and objectively from a false standpoint, it is about dependency of propositions, what we think of as truths.
If morality is subjective, it is dependent upon personal conception, if morality is objective, it is independent of personal conception and would still be true even if humans and their conceptions went extinct.
Hail Satan! 
