Motivational books?

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Yes l have, regardless you were never a Christian.

So you've heard of "No True Scotsman" but you don't understand it.

Yes l understand what it means, it just doesn't apply here.

I did not say the Bible would be painful to anyone, you said that it was painful, l said you were never a Christian.

Then you aren't denying that the bible can be painful to someone? Are you accepting that this could lead someone to suicide, like it almost did with me?
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Please do not get upset with what l'm saying, it's not my intention.
God uses His word to convict people about their sin and their need for a savior and by grace give people salvation. So yes in that way it can be painful, l find it painful to this day at times because God is convicting me of my sin and short comings. I also find it to be of great value and great joy, it's a spiritual book that holds much in many different ways for anyone that takes it seriously. This spiritual book has a great effect on the physical world because we are physical beings that need the spiritual connection to God whether we want to believe it or not.
I do not believe the Bible was what almost lead you to suicide that is not the purpose of the Bible. What I can believe is that pressure and misguided people in your church were the main reason. I went to church with a guy (we were both teens) that actually tried to commit suicide at the church alter. To this day I do not know why but it would not surprise me if he had come under undo pressure from people within the church. By the way what denomination did you belong to? Believe me I've seen the pressure that can be put on people in a church and sometimes the people doing it do not realize what they're doing. People in the church do not always act like what the Bible says they should, they're to full of self interest to be responsible Christians. Some want to teach the Bible for what they want out of it instead of reading and studying it for the truth of God and when they push this false teaching towards others they can do great harm. I've seen some terrible things happen within the churches I've been a member of things that made me doubt certain people's salvation. You see I think one of the biggest problems in today's Christian Church is those who call themselves Christians but are not. To many churches want the membership to grow and will over look the people who bear no fruit and accept them into the membership. As the Bible teaches this is allowing the wolf into the sheep pen and that always results in conflict and troubles.
With all this said l still do not know your personal situation nor the people involved with you in church so l can't answer your question to any specifics. What I can say is if you had been a member in a church I belonged to l would have tried my best to help you. I wouldn't have fed you a bunch of nonsense I would have sat down with you and searched for the truths you needed. Please read my latest post to Thena323 to see why I believe you were not a Christian. If you want a more private discussion you can e-mail me, not to try and preach just to understand better.

GC