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March 11, 2017 at 8:57 pm (This post was last modified: March 11, 2017 at 9:05 pm by Athene.)
(March 11, 2017 at 2:59 am)Godschild Wrote:
(March 10, 2017 at 5:12 pm)Thena323 Wrote:
You can't expect folks to take you seriously when you say ignorant shit like this, GC. You're being childish as hell.
Jesster believed, then she didn't. The same is true of myself. Your being fearful of that potential raising the question of whether it's possible for anyone (including yourself) to lose faith at some point in life, doesn't mean that you have to respond to such an uncomfortable prospect like a scared, silly brat. My gawd. You're so afraid of your bubble bursting, that you've essentially resorted to sticking your fingers in your ears, and saying "Nuh-uh! Nuh-huh! ". It's ridiculous.
You're a grown man,GC. Is that really the best you've got?
If so, you have absolutely no business evangelizing. You're terrible at it.
Sorry, bud.
No need to get bent, I've said the same thing many times and all of a sudden you object. My bubble bursting, l do not live in a bubble l know what's happening all around me. I've been here longer than any other Christian and most of the non-believers and no one has come close to changing my mind not even a thought of changing. The people of my church have always thought l was good at evangelism and frankly their opinions don't matter all that much either, it's all about what God thinks.
The scriptures tell us in more than one place that once we become a Christian nothing nor no one can move us from God. Look at it this way being a Christian means you know God without a doubt, so if you could change your mind about staying a Christian you certainly couldn't deny that God is real. You could say I'm no longer going to serve Him and worship Him, but you can't say He doesn't exist.
You being a non-believer look at Christianity with the belief God isn't real and that Christianity is more of a social club or whatever. Myself I know God is real and I know what is involved in the Christian belief, understand I'm not biblically uneducated, I've studied the scriptures for a long time and dug deep into them. Just going before the church and saying you believe want save you, you will still be as lost as last year's Easter egg if your confession wasn't from the heart. I've seen many people who thought they were Christian spending their whole life in church and active in the work come to realize they were never saved. They had the answers to questions when asked, they went through all the right motions, they went before the church and confessed their belief and for years were empty inside and never asked anyone what was going on. Then one day God the Father actually called them to accept Jesus as their savior, that's when they realized they were lost and need to do something about it. God the Father doesn't call people to Christ at a certain age or certain time, He calls them when He knows they are ready to accept Jesus if they will. To many well intentioned Christians try to talk not just kids but everyone they meet into becoming a Christian, kids feel the pressure and try and please others by making a commitment that they have no idea what's involved, without the Father's call it's all for nothing. Jesus said only the Father can open the heart and call people to Christ, that's a paraphrase. Adults and older teens rebel more than they listen and search, they've already tasted the pleasures of the world (the forbidden fruit so to speak} so fewer come to know Christ at a later age.
With all that said I hope you can see that you and l look at Christianity with different sets of eyes. When I tell someone they were never a Christian who says they are no longer a believer in God l do not mean it as cruel or hurtful it's simply the truth according to the scriptures. Being a Christian means one is a follower of Christ the living God and, if someone claims they were once a Christian and now no longer believes God is real, then they could have never been a follower of the living Christ. It just doesn't work the way that those who called themselves Christians and then jumped ship believes it does. In my opinion they are trying to put on a face that will fit both sides of this issue, they just do not want to look bad for whatever reason.
If you never believe anything else about me just remember this, l do not tell those who have left what they believe was Christianity that they were never a Christian with any sort of malice, that's not me nor is it a proper way for a Christian to act. I actually do it in hopes they might re-examine what they believed to a be Christianity and allow God to once again convict their heart. I guess l've said all that can be said my friend, hope that I did not offend you in what I said.
GC
If you persist in attaching an ever-growing number of lofty assertions to your personal definition of what a Christian is, then you will always win GC; In your own mind, of course.
Congratulations, I suppose.
Though, do keep in mind, that the people you to wish enlighten are well aware of your willingness to engage in such ill-disguised dishonesty. So, when you shift gears and attempt to somehow 'move' non-believers with some random, goofy anecdote or testimony regarding your 'personal experience' with God, don't get bent out of shape if their not willing to take it at face value.
You've already demonstrated an inclination to manipulate the truth quite desperately, when it comes to these matters.
