(March 14, 2017 at 11:45 pm)Godschild Wrote:(March 14, 2017 at 1:15 am)TheAtheologian Wrote: I will respond again:
Because God is supposedly a necessary being, which mean he exists in all possible worlds.
Why would an omnipotent God have to reside where He doesn't want to, you are placing restrictions on a being you have no control over. What makes you believe there is any world outside of this one.
He can't choose to, he is logically necessary. God has restrictions, he is restricted by his characteristics. By all possible worlds, I mean every world that is possible, not necessarily a multiverse.
Quote:God is, He has always been and He will always be, is this what you mean by necessary? God exists outside our flawed minds so what we perceive as logic has no bearing on God. I've asked before and will again what other possible worlds, describe them? What makes you believe there are any other worlds? Why is it you believe that the all powerful God has to do anything that you deem necessary?Yes. Possible worlds are just whatever world is possible. For example, in 2012, Russia and the U.S. start a nuclear war. That is one possible scenario, but it never happened in our world. Whether there is literally a world ensemble has no impact on possible worlds. God had to create the universe, that is logically true since God represents an immutable state of mind. God being is necessary. I didn't make this up, theologians would agree on much of this, they derived these concepts of God.
Quote:Again why, He is all powerfully and do as He chooses. There are no other worlds, He gave us this one and we've screwed it up, He is not going to allow such in another, the new one He promises.There are other possible worlds, I am not saying there is another world that is coming.
However, I would agree that God's existence would necessitate this world.
Quote:Circular reasoning. If He exist here He must exist there because He exists here.No circular reasoning here. This is part of being logically necessary.
Quote:It's not a misunderstanding on my part I clearly understand that you are trying to apply flawed logic through a philosophical idea that in no way can apply to the supreme being God is. The only thing that is necessary with God is He must be who He says He is.Yeah, this confirms you misunderstand the concept of God.
Of course, I find no reason to believe that God is a logically necessary concept myself, but Christian theologians have been asserting this for centuries.
Hail Satan!

