RE: A discussion with tack
July 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2011 at 12:31 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
(July 10, 2011 at 9:14 am)Rhythm Wrote: It is not the atheist who wishes god to be beyond explanation, or states that there "could be no" evidence, it is the theist that insists he must be, that there cannot be. Again, this was not always the case. God/gods didn't "exist outside of this universe" until theists had to account for the curious lack of god IN this universe. As an atheist, I can say "show me the evidence", I'd be forced to change my position wouldn't I? It is the theist who maintains that no such evidence could exist, and yet they see it everywhere. It's dishonest, a debating tactic, no statement of truth.
I can tell you what else "exists outside of this universe", and that is nothing.
..may I also point out the invisible and the non-existant look exactly the same.
Another thing, I have heard a few of my fellow electricians say "god is infinitely powerful". I ask them to explain EXACTLY what we learned about power theory when it comes to "infinite power". They slowly and grudgingly admit that "infinite power" is THE EXACT SAME THING as "no power". When you are deluded, sometimes it is difficult to admit that you hold conflicting definitions.