RE: does the "Israel becoming a nation again prophecy" have any value
March 31, 2017 at 12:58 am
(March 31, 2017 at 12:19 am)Isis Wrote:(March 30, 2017 at 10:40 pm)Orochi Wrote: Yes because Israeli's are so for a two state solution and have no interest in forcing the Palestinians out of the region.
Quote:I would say that they do support the two state solution, in fact the idea appears to be gaining support among Israelis. It is your friends in the Palestinian "government" who are the problem, and they continue to refuse to recognise Israel as a Jewish state to this day.
Once again no they don't as one articles I posted clearly points out FROM GOVERNMENT MINISTERS stating they should wipe out the Palestinians and that they don't support the state solution .And I already condemned Hamas
And to further my first point as Tzipi Hotovely, deputy foreign minister (Likud)
"This land is ours. All of it is ours. We did not come here to apologise for that… We expect as a matter of principle of the international community to recognise Israel's right to build homes for Jews in their homeland, everywhere."
Or how about Moshe Yaalon, defence minister (Likud)
"We should find another way, not just talking about the 1967 lines and a Palestinian state."
Or Naftali Bennett, education minister (Jewish Home)
"I will do everything in my power to make sure they never get a state."
Or at least 10 other top ministers admitting they have no commitment to the proposal
Quote:As for the contention it one side that provokes all the attacks clearly you have never meet there settlers a good many of them are religiously motivated fanatics.Quote:There are racially and sectarian motivated attacks on innocent Palestinians by a minority of settlers, yes. The Israeli government has arrested people for the said attacks. You keep harping on about settlements, but ignore articles like this.
Nope the majority of settlers want them gone. It's not a few it's the overwhelming majority I've ignored nothing. And yes they arrested radicals "sometimes "because some of these groups are hostile to the government too. And it's bad PR for Israel need for foreign investment .
Quote:Who see there right to take over Palestinian land as god given.Quote:Funny that, don't the Palestinians think along similar lines?
Yup both groups are religiously motivated but only one gets vast military aid from the west .
Quote:And would happily force the Palestinians out or ghettoize them.
Quote:Uh-huh, and that's wrong. I'm not sticking up for violent settlers. Thank you for repeating stuff that I already know though.
Never said you were. But the simple fact remains this isn't isolated opinion it's whole reason the settlements are there in the first place .
Quote:The two state solution is a western imposition that Israeli pays lip service to. Now I of course condemn Hamas and it's tactics but this idea the Israeli is a sheep beset by wolves is absurd .Israeli is a wolf fighting other wolves for meat (the middle east)
What exactly inspires your hate for Israel? Israel is a strong, fantastic country. They're surrounded by people who would like to see them wiped off the map. They can't afford to be weak.
I don't hate Israel any more then I hate Iran, Iraq ,Egypt , Saudi Arabia , or any other country in that region. I just acknowledge Israel's goals are not that much different then there's. And that Isreal would wipe those some off the map for much the same reason. So it's neighbors can't afford to be weak either.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
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