(April 4, 2017 at 8:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm sorry mh.brewer you see it that way.
You guys always mention how are we connected to God if God exists. How can we know him. I am explaining it has to be by a leader and living guide that connects to God, a living connection who is the connector to God and is the connection by which we recognized the named in the beautiful names of God.
I am trying to show that knowledge of the self, knowledge of the Guide (Connection) and knowledge of the Absolute is one and the same.
I have always gone the root of talking about morality and value, etc, but now I going the route that morality is not conceptual, value is not conceptual, love is not mere emotion, we are connected by a mystic link to all things in the universe and the source of the mystic link, it's Lord and Creator.
It's the reality, it's the mystic link, it's the perception, that you guys always ask: "what is morality, what is objective morality, describe it etc"....and I left it fuzzy most of the time, but now am describing the tree of light we are all connected to. The Love by which all are connected to each other and something beyond all of us.
Love is not a mere chemical, it is our leader channeling us his blessings and help, and calling us back to the path. He asks forgiveness for us and suffers when we sin or our souls perish or get darker, he is in deep sorrow, this tree of light connected to all us, he is our leader, our witness, morality is not a concept, no such thing as a concept being binding us and making us obligated to value and love, that is absurd, it's a reality, and God is the source of it, but the connection is a living being, a real thing.
I don't know how you define preaching but I never seen Atheist ever justify love or morality or value or even why they should strive for anything meaningful or believing in meaning.
These things I describe not only answer what praise and morality is, it shows why Quran has called it the name of God and emphasized on it being the name of God and emphasized on the Captains who are instances of the name of God and leaders of humans, and each human will be called with a leader from them, a driver, a witness....every people will be called with a witness from themselves.
It shows truly the only answer, if you would only give a ear.
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You're preaching again.
Why do I need to justify anything on that list, to you or anyone. I have my own beliefs (or lack there of) and they work for me. I think it's sad that you can't find contentment or satisfaction within yourself and have to find it in a man made god character which demands that you step and fetch. That apparently requires you to preach. And a god character from antiquity that appears to have little relevance in today's world.
Tell you what, you do what you need to do. If that is preach, then preach. If that is subjugate your self to a god, knock yourself out. But do me a favor, stop thinking that I or anyone else here needs to be converted. My life will be just fine without it, in fact better. You seem to forget that most of us tried your path and rejected it based on what it is.
Now if you would, how about talking to me, not at me. Answer the previous questions: Have other things changed in your behavior? Have things changed in your relationships with others in the real world?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.