(April 11, 2017 at 8:39 am)Omnibus E Plrus Nhilist Wrote:(April 6, 2017 at 11:39 am)Flavius Wrote: You spoke the truth, amazing post. Bottom line is, I have nothing against theists as long as they do not interact with my beliefs and attempt to convert me to some other ideology. We can treat each other as normal humans regardless of our views.
I too have nothing against theists in fact I enjoy their company. As to convert me I couldn't care less, they will not convert me (I'm unconvertible). Most converters are people like you and me with whatever foibles they are subjected to. Most are trying to do their best with what little (and I mean little) reality as they understand it.
I have nothing against my fellow humans who value diplomacy over war, whom value empathy over bullying, but as far as claims, no, I do not owe any claim blind value, and as long as humans make claims and clamor for political favors be it about religion or economics, it is foolish to ignore those things.
I value human rights, not claims. Humans whom are not violent and value common law can make whatever claims they want, even claims I find to be bullshit. But I also have the right to call that claim bullshit, not just on religion, but any claim.
If the worst any theist or atheist has to worry about is getting offended, and you make it home safely to bed at night, you are having a good day. There are BOTH theists and atheists in parts of the world, even in the west, who live in fear of harm of assholes. I don't consider myself a victim here on this website. I don't consider any theist here a victim either.