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Opinions on Ben Shapiro?
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RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro?
(April 12, 2017 at 12:05 pm)Vincent Wrote: I believe my political stances were well thought-out. I have just been examining views of the opposing side and when I hear something that contradicts my beliefs but it actually makes sense, then I am compelled to consider it. I do lean to the left in many areas (abortion, gay rights, regultion of big business, etc.) but I feel that labeling myself "liberal" now comes with certain unwanted connotations (i.e. Islam apologist, feminist, believing there's more than two genders, believing that everything that comes out of Bernie Sanders mouth is gospel truth), and leads people to assume that I don't agree with any conservative values, which I do (i.e. I don't like the idea of making college free, or raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, or making everyone's tax rates as high as places like Denmark). I felt this was because the popular center of the left has shifted too far to an extreme position that I'd prefer to call myself a moderate. 

While I am distrustful of Breitbart and the individuals who work there, I believe it is an ad hominem to dismiss someone on the basis of their employment rather than their talking points. And as I said, though I disagree with some of his stances I think he often uses sound logic to defend them. At least from what I've seen.

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I encourage everyone to let go of these left/right ideological cubby-holes. It's as freeing as becoming an atheist.
I'm also glad you have avoided the trap of false equivalency. Just because you reject pigeon holing yourself, it doesn't mean that left and right put forth equally valid or invalid arguments at every moment in time. It's perfectly fair and reasonable to recognize that currently conservatism in the US has gone off the rails more than liberalism has.

As to Shapiro, he is a smart guy and regularly embarrasses the SJW type liberals by catching them up on their ridiculousness. However, having said that, he is doing exactly the opposite of what you have just done. He constrains himself to one outlook and one outlook only and therefore falls into the dangerous trap of demonizing ALL of the left rather than accepting that good ideas don't have a right/left spin. From what I've seen, he demonizes groups of people far too much for my liking.
If god was real he wouldn't need middle men to explain his wants or do his bidding.
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Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Vincent - April 12, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Faith No More - April 12, 2017 at 11:34 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by surreptitious57 - April 12, 2017 at 11:56 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 20, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Vincent - April 12, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Alex K - April 12, 2017 at 2:37 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Faith No More - April 12, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Crunchy - April 13, 2017 at 4:13 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Minimalist - April 12, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Vincent - April 12, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by TheRealJoeFish - April 12, 2017 at 2:30 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Catholic_Lady - April 12, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by surreptitious57 - April 12, 2017 at 3:37 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by TheRealJoeFish - April 12, 2017 at 2:41 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Vincent - April 12, 2017 at 2:49 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by TheRealJoeFish - April 12, 2017 at 2:50 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Amarok - April 12, 2017 at 5:12 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by paulpablo - April 12, 2017 at 5:52 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Jeanne - April 12, 2017 at 6:27 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Pat Mustard - April 13, 2017 at 5:02 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by brewer - April 13, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Divinity - April 13, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Jeanne - April 13, 2017 at 6:18 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Crunchy - April 13, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Divinity - April 14, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Jeanne - April 15, 2017 at 2:32 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Faith No More - April 14, 2017 at 8:17 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Jeanne - April 16, 2017 at 1:25 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Jeanne - April 14, 2017 at 8:10 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Crunchy - April 14, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Jeanne - April 15, 2017 at 11:56 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by scoobysnack - April 14, 2017 at 2:28 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by downbeatplumb - April 19, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by scoobysnack - April 19, 2017 at 10:01 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by CapnAwesome - April 14, 2017 at 3:38 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Crunchy - April 16, 2017 at 6:40 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by CapnAwesome - April 18, 2017 at 7:06 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Grand Nudger - April 15, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2017 at 2:25 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Jeanne - April 16, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2017 at 8:20 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Industrial Atheist - April 16, 2017 at 8:26 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Aegon - April 19, 2017 at 10:07 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Industrial Atheist - April 20, 2017 at 12:07 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Rev. Rye - April 20, 2017 at 12:27 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by AceBoogie - April 16, 2017 at 8:33 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Industrial Atheist - April 16, 2017 at 9:00 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Amarok - April 16, 2017 at 9:46 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Industrial Atheist - April 16, 2017 at 9:52 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2017 at 9:54 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Amarok - April 16, 2017 at 10:02 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Amarok - April 17, 2017 at 11:40 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Rev. Rye - April 18, 2017 at 12:08 am
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Crunchy - April 18, 2017 at 3:54 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Amarok - April 19, 2017 at 10:17 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Rev. Rye - April 19, 2017 at 11:02 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2017 at 10:52 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by Amarok - April 19, 2017 at 11:07 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by downbeatplumb - April 20, 2017 at 1:21 pm
RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro? - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2017 at 1:51 pm

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