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Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 15, 2017 at 10:32 pm
My impression is that this guy is by far the most intelligent and enlightened member of Trump's band of merrymakers, hoodlums and thieves. I realize that that is not much of an endorsement. I'm not going to claim that he's a "good guy" or anything. I can't endorse anyone who would get in bed with Donald Trump but in my estimation, he's a shining light in a miasma of darkness - kind of like Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell in the W administration.
I'm curious what other people here think of him.
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RE: Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 15, 2017 at 11:05 pm
Somewhat less stupid than his idiot boss.
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RE: Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 16, 2017 at 12:02 am
(December 15, 2017 at 11:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Somewhat less stupid than his idiot boss.
Well, yeah. Obviously that. But is this someone you would be willing to say you could respect as an individual while differing with his political opinions?
I could say that. I could say the same about our own (me an Min both live in Arizona) Jeff Flake and John McCain. I could not say I have any respect for the majority of Republican electees anywhere regardless of their level or the morons who voted for them. Most are contemptible to me.
I guess I'm trying to define the parameters for extending an olive branch. Is Rex Tillerson at least worthy of respect from us liberals? I personally think he is.
I think it's important that both sides at least look across the aisle and identify those who they can at least respect and hopefully work with. The way we're going, it's like we're heading for Civil War II. I hope to hell I'm being melodramatic here but it seems like we are in the US 1960s 2.0. I think we really need to meet at the table and hash things out before the situation gets out of hand.
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RE: Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 16, 2017 at 12:20 am
He's just another oil company criminal. If he can kill a few caribou by drilling in the Arctic he'll be happy as a pig in shit.
And Flake and McCain - who didn't stop whining about the fucking deficit are going to vote for this abomination of a tax bill all to reward their super rich pals. Fuck both of them.
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RE: Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 16, 2017 at 1:03 am
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(December 16, 2017 at 12:20 am)Minimalist Wrote: He's just another oil company criminal. If he can kill a few caribou by drilling in the Arctic he'll be happy as a pig in shit.
And Flake and McCain - who didn't stop whining about the fucking deficit are going to vote for this abomination of a tax bill all to reward their super rich pals. Fuck both of them.
Thank you for your response, Min
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RE: Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 16, 2017 at 1:09 am
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the administration pulling in different directions to the likes of the North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un is especially disturbing. the little shit needs clear and unambiguous missives from our side and mixed signals = consent towards "keep on doing what you're doing".
BTW, where'd his favorite general disappear to ??
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RE: Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 16, 2017 at 3:33 am
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(December 15, 2017 at 10:32 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: My impression is that this guy is by far the most intelligent and enlightened member of Trump's band of merrymakers, hoodlums and thieves. I realize that that is not much of an endorsement. I'm not going to claim that he's a "good guy" or anything. I can't endorse anyone who would get in bed with Donald Trump but in my estimation, he's a shining light in a miasma of darkness - kind of like Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell in the W administration.
I'm curious what other people here think of him.
He may not have championed any disasterous foreign policy initiatives independently of his boss, but his handling of his role as the leader of the department of state has been so abysmal that by some measures, half of the professional diplomatic and foreign service Corp, built up over 40years and repository of professional skill, knowledge and experience accumulated since end of wwii, has left in the last year during his term, SO FAR.
The repercussion of this will Be felt for decades.
While trump has been utterly destroying the credibility and political capital of the United States from above, tillerson has been destroying from below the fundamental mechanism which United States would need if she were to ever attempt to affect repairs at a later date.
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RE: Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 16, 2017 at 5:14 am
(December 15, 2017 at 10:32 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: My impression is that this guy is by far the most intelligent and enlightened member of Trump's band of merrymakers, hoodlums and thieves. I realize that that is not much of an endorsement. I'm not going to claim that he's a "good guy" or anything. I can't endorse anyone who would get in bed with Donald Trump but in my estimation, he's a shining light in a miasma of darkness - kind of like Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell in the W administration.
I'm curious what other people here think of him.
'...shining light in a miasma of darkness' is a bit strong. I think he's trying his best to do a job for which he is monumentally unqualified, a job made all the more difficult by that bus Trump keeps parking on his (Tillerson's) face.
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RE: Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 16, 2017 at 9:12 am
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(December 15, 2017 at 10:32 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: My impression is that this guy is by far the most intelligent and enlightened member of Trump's band of merrymakers, hoodlums and thieves. I realize that that is not much of an endorsement. I'm not going to claim that he's a "good guy" or anything. I can't endorse anyone who would get in bed with Donald Trump but in my estimation, he's a shining light in a miasma of darkness - kind of like Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell in the W administration.
I'm curious what other people here think of him.
I am reminded of a passage in Terry Pratchett's novel Feet of Clay where Sgt Colon is contemplating his imminent retirement from the Watch and lamenting that all the new recruits are cleverer than him. His partner, Nobby Nobbs, says "Well Fred, at least you're cleverer than Detritus", to which the good sergeant replies,"Yes, but then again so's yest".
Tillerson is the yeast to Drumpfuck's troll.
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RE: Opinions On Secretary of State Tillerson
December 16, 2017 at 4:16 pm
(December 16, 2017 at 9:12 am)Wololo Wrote: (December 15, 2017 at 10:32 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: My impression is that this guy is by far the most intelligent and enlightened member of Trump's band of merrymakers, hoodlums and thieves. I realize that that is not much of an endorsement. I'm not going to claim that he's a "good guy" or anything. I can't endorse anyone who would get in bed with Donald Trump but in my estimation, he's a shining light in a miasma of darkness - kind of like Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell in the W administration.
I'm curious what other people here think of him.
I am reminded of a passage in Terry Pratchett's novel Feet of Clay where Sgt Colon is contemplating his imminent retirement from the Watch and lamenting that all the new recruits are cleverer than him. His partner, Nobby Nobbs, says "Well Fred, at least you're cleverer than Detritus", to which the good sergeant replies,"Yes, but then again so's yest".
Tillerson is the yeast to Drumpfuck's troll.
Unfortunately we don't have any Carrots and Anguas coming up in the Republican Party, though, do we?
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