RE: Opinions on Ben Shapiro?
April 20, 2017 at 12:07 am
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2017 at 12:09 am by The Industrial Atheist.)
Aegon
He's not even a Democratic Socialist. He still believes in a free market. He's a Social Democrat (which I identify as too.) I hate how he calls himself a socialist when he clearly isn't. Just gives the other side fuel to dismiss him and his supporters.
There is no significant liberal force in our Congress though. The Democratic party is majority centrist. Getting nowhere. They're right, the country as a whole is to the right.
Yeah I think Bernie is in line with Democratic Socialists of America. Both believe in a free market for Consumer goods but that healthcare should not be profit driven and that the government should help more with education.
So really yeah Social Democrat. but Bernie and the DSA call themselves socialists.
Scooby if you think Obama is a Communist, he made the some of the Bush Tax cuts permanent, and cut small business taxes over 10 times. He had military interventions (although many of them were drone strikes) in 7 different countries. Obamacare is essentially the "Individual Mandate" plan of Nixon and Romney. i beg you, look it up. He was a Centrist.
When Bill Clinton started making decisions by 'triangulation' the Republicans had to go farther right to distinguish themselves from his Centristiness.
Politics have been going farther right ever since.
(April 16, 2017 at 8:26 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: LOL Sanders is a Democratic Socialist not a Marxist AKA Communist and Hillary and Obama weren't even that liberal. They were Centrists.
He's not even a Democratic Socialist. He still believes in a free market. He's a Social Democrat (which I identify as too.) I hate how he calls himself a socialist when he clearly isn't. Just gives the other side fuel to dismiss him and his supporters.
(April 19, 2017 at 10:01 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Ah no we have a crazy left in the US. Don't have the time to go into it, but I live in a place where the communists like to pretend they are progressive while they are really the communist party of our state haha:
http://cpwisconsin.org/
There is no significant liberal force in our Congress though. The Democratic party is majority centrist. Getting nowhere. They're right, the country as a whole is to the right.
Yeah I think Bernie is in line with Democratic Socialists of America. Both believe in a free market for Consumer goods but that healthcare should not be profit driven and that the government should help more with education.
So really yeah Social Democrat. but Bernie and the DSA call themselves socialists.
Scooby if you think Obama is a Communist, he made the some of the Bush Tax cuts permanent, and cut small business taxes over 10 times. He had military interventions (although many of them were drone strikes) in 7 different countries. Obamacare is essentially the "Individual Mandate" plan of Nixon and Romney. i beg you, look it up. He was a Centrist.
When Bill Clinton started making decisions by 'triangulation' the Republicans had to go farther right to distinguish themselves from his Centristiness.
Politics have been going farther right ever since.
