Trans people & sports

[paulpablo]

Where do you find the records of all her fights?

By googling her.........but again, you aren't likely to find them all, even though you can find more than you were aware of.  It's just the way the sport is.  

I wouldn't say winning is proof there is an advantage, I'd just say based on the fights you and I have spoke about she hasn't just won a few fights like you said, she's won the vast majority of fights, all except one, and three by knockout.

Mountains out of molehills.  Her entire careers worth of fights only amounts to a few fights, and isn't representative of trans performance in sport overall.  Do you think, personally, that on the basis of her record one might assume she has this Trans Advantage we hear about?

What I said....was this-

What she seems to have done wrong, like Laurel Hubbard, is win something in a big way every now and again.

Which is what she did, and what drew down the ire.  Same with Hubbard.  Neither are pointed to as exceptional within the totality of their fields, in the female division.  Fox, in particular, doesn;t fit the bill for Trans Advantage even as it;s presented by people who imagine there to be one.  She doesn't have greater muscle mass than her competitors..or an immutability masculine shape (like an extreme reach advantage)..her hormone levels are legit, and if she does have denser bones, it;s no more or less of an advantage than when a black girl fights a white girl.  No one's clamoring for racial purity in divisions, not even the gender purity cranks.

She hasn't won something in a big way every now and again though, she's won more than every now and again and lost less than every now and again.  She's lost one and won 8 that you know of. 

I tend to lean in agreement with what a lot of people have said on this thread concerning the fact that I don't think that advantage necesserily means an unfair fight, some women have more testosterone than others naturally and I don't know where the line should be drawn although I admit to not be an expert in the subject.

But even with that being my perspective it seems dishonest to say that Falon Fox has won in a big way everynow and again when she's lost one fight out of eight.