(April 19, 2017 at 6:45 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: That’s what the bible says. Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. To show you how indoctrinated I was, I believed this for 25 years and never asked why. I guess it was one of those questions that are so dangerous that my programmed mind wouldn’t even consider it.seriously?!?!?
1Thess 5:21 Question all things and hold on to what is Good.
That i believe was my first question ever.
No one ever gave me a good answer. Then I stumbled upon one after a boy's dog killed mine. I wanted his dog put down, and he could not understand why.
To him it was his dog, and all the things I loved about my dog he had loved in his, and because my dog did not kill his he could not understand the loss or anger I felt. He though it ok to just beat the dog, chain it outside and not give it dinner, fit the crime, because that is what he had done when the murderous dog killed other things (cats birds coons ect..)
This story if you understand it or not is about perspective. Or rather Having understanding that maybe another person or in this case being, is so hurt by your action that it demands death, That is what the bible tells us God feels about all sin.
Now because we have falsely introduce a narrative that says we are all 'good people' that means/allows us the "moral latitude" to judge God's sin list and trivialize the sins we can help but do (this is the kids punishment of no food and sleeping out side for his dog) Because the boy like we believe we are basically good, and we judge God's list of horrendous death penality acts on a sliding scale rather than looks at the sin as He looks at them. We want to filter those sins though our morality rather than respect the one who has been offended.
Quote:But why? If god is sovereign and omnipotent, how can there be a requirement for salvation that he has to comply to? It’s as if god is this low level regional manager who has to follow regulations set up by a power higher up on the divine hierarchy than he.Because Spiritually speaking unless we are connected to God we are small and lack very basic understanding. We seldom can understand things outside of our experiences. Most of us know the crack of the whip. Most of us know the loss of Death. having experienced the seperate things we can imagine what it would be like to be beaten to death.
That physical pain we would endure, is what we asked God to endure when we simply asked to be forgiven. In order for us to understand and respect what God is made to endure, He gave his son to live out this experience before us so that we may have some idea and understanding. So that when God asks us to simply respect his son for this demnstration of Love we simply do so. Realizing the cost paid so we may understand without having to endure.
For most this seem like too much to ask.
Quote:Yet, according to the bible, god can forgive sins without shedding blood. Jesus disciples asked him why he spoke in parables. In Mark 5 he told them he spoke in parables so that the people would not understand him and repent and be forgiven. So they could have been forgiven without Jesus dying, but he decided not to do it that way.No Jesus was going to die anyway. Jesus was not calling anyone to repent in mark 5 r telling parables he was healing people.
Quote:Was it Shakespeare who said all the world’s a stage? The sin of Adam, the passion of Christ, it’s all part of a Divine Comedy being played out on planet Earth. God is the playwright and nothing has to be, but he decides what is. He is the blood-thirsty draconian psychopath who decided there’d be no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. There’s no one above him. No one whose requirements he has to comply to. He set the price for sin and might makes right.if you've already made up your mind, then why ask the questions?
End of story.
Is it a dare or do you think all are blind as you are blind?
Has God allowed anyone to see? or are all like me?
Now my turn. What if it was just you? what if you fell through the cracks and you for what ever reason you and your buddies here just dont get it?
It is then God's fault?
What if he sends someone to answer those question (whether you like the answers or not)? Still God's fault?