Trans people & sports

[Shell B]

I do remember saying it. You responded to my latest post, not that post. We were talking about whether ftm trans have broken records. You want to just assume that they have. I say there aren't any records of it that I know of. You say they aren't the new kids on the block and that they have been doing this since at least the 50s, which has fuck all to do with whether they've set any records, and does make them the new kids on the block. The Olympics have been around for thousands of years.

Again, you're just arguing with yourself. You don't have any sources where a ftm has set or broken a record, then piss off. Conjecture from you is worth about as much as dried up dog shit to me.

Try reading my posts properly for once. I have only ever said that we do not know whether transsexuals have been competing and breaking records.You are both simultaneously straw-manning me and adopting my position once called out on your assumptions. I only said that transsexuals have been transitioning since the 50's. After all, for all we know MTFs might have been competing since the 50's and not doing very well. After all, I did say

My point is that it is not always obvious who is transsexual. The whole point of transitioning is to blend in as the gender that matches your gender identity.

Whereas you're saying that  FTMs are definitely not setting records.

So, your position is that it's just a coincidence that ftm trans aren't setting the same kind of records?

Fuck's sake, Mathilda, I wouldn't adopt your position for the world. You took a hard left at hard left and half your posts are militant as fuck.

You haven't "called me out" on any assumptions.

Context is everything. I initially said, to someone else, that it doesn't appear that ftm are setting records. His response led to the comment you quotemined above. Given that his response didn't suggest they were setting records, I posited his position in that way.

I've stated time and again that I find your attributions of malice, militant leftism and superiority complex insufferable. Stop quotemining conversations I'm having with reasonable people to go on your unreasonable tirades. I'm not interested in discussing anything with you. You're not even having discussions. You're just spewing your beliefs and talking down to anyone who doesn't agree. Go throw your period blood at a Republican or whatever it is you nutjobs do with your spare time.

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Maybe we should just close this thread up.
We don't seem to be getting anywhere and personally, I like everyone involved (and totally respect their intelligence) and I'd hate to see it descend any further. :-)

That's a sweet sentiment, but people don't have to like each other.

I'll probably start a new thread at some point that posits a more specific question, so it can, hopefully, lead to more specific debate on the topic. I could even start a "formal" debate in the debate area, so the funny farms on both sides of the coin can't chime in.