Without the Shedding of Blood There is No Remission of Sin

[Chad32]

It's not god that we call names but the god that the church invented. I'll say it again, I don't start with Jesus shedding his blood. I start with your god setting things up for Adam to sin and then making up this blood requirement for the sin he set up.  Doesn't god take some responsibility for his own part in this and become a sinner himself in need of atonement for the sin he caused Adam to commit?

No god doesn't have to live by our standards, nor do we have to live by the standards the church made up and claimed were god's.  You can't make up this blood thirsty god and then try to understand why we don't love him.

You don't seem to want to answer my question as to whether or not you are an atheist.  Your arguments about the christian God hold no weight as far as I can see other than to say you think he is evil.  You're just applying your own logic to how you believe God should act and that you don't believe in him.  Since God is the creator of us and is a different entity, our logic cannot be determined to be the motivating force for his actions.  When he determined that Jesus must die for our sins he wasn't using your logic.  We just know that is what had to be and it was done in love for us.  Do you believe in a god who fits your image of what he should be or are you an atheist?

I realize that our logic is flawed, but it's the only one we have access to. You decided at some point that he was good, somehow. Either by logic, or just believing what you were told. If god is real, and he tells us he's good by definition, why believe him? It's in his nature? Says who? Him? You see the flaw in that, right? Everyone you ever talk to is going to say they're right about everything they have an opinion about. If they do something that contradicts that, and beat you up when you disagree, it doesn't make them right. It just makes them a thug.