Without the Shedding of Blood There is No Remission of Sin

[Chad32]

I realize that our logic is flawed, but it's the only one we have access to. You decided at some point that he was good, somehow. Either by logic, or just believing what you were told. If god is real, and he tells us he's good by definition, why believe him? It's in his nature? Says who? Him? You see the flaw in that, right? Everyone you ever talk to is going to say they're right about everything they have an opinion about. If they do something that contradicts that, and beat you up when you disagree, it doesn't make them right. It just makes them a thug.

I don't believe in Zeus.  I think the many of the deeds attributed to him are evil, but I don't spend any time expounding on how evil he is, and I don't use that as a reason to not believe in him.  If he really is a god then I would expect him to operate with different logic than myself.  A god who knows all things makes his decisions from that perspective.  He makes his decisions based on their eternal implications.

Sure, but there's no large following of Zeus that goes around hurting people, and passing laws against lifestyles that Zeus doesn't approve of. Many atheists talk about god, but really our problem is with the followers. Pointing out absurdities in the bible, and how outdated god's beliefs are is just one way to get people to question their beliefs. And most religious leaders don't really want their flock to question. That's why the abrahamic religions are so authoritarian.

And if his logic is so different than ours, then how can we ever follow him? Besides following different church leaders who will inevitably fight each other over how to interpret the scripture? When I was a kid, I was told that god wants everyone to get into heaven. If that's ever going to happen, he does need to get down on our level, try to understand us, and work with us on our terms. At least if he wants a productive relationship with us. Instead it's almost impossible to know who's really going to get into heaven, because there will always be people who read the same book telling you that you're doing it wrong.