(April 23, 2017 at 1:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You said to discuss with other faiths. I am saying we all agree in the need of such figures...so then I reasoned to them, one of many reasons I believe the Quran is accurate and true.
(April 23, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Brian37 Wrote: YEP, BINGO and that is my point. So again, if that is the case that all religions believe in the need, then what neutral filter do humans have that everyone can use to determine what is subjective opinion vs universal fact?
Reason. Reason with genuine honest reflection always leads to the truth, if it slips, it will know it slipped eventually because it is humble enough to recognize it's faults.
(April 23, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Brian37 Wrote: YEP, BINGO and that is my point. So again, if that is the case that all religions believe in the need, then what neutral filter do humans have that everyone can use to determine what is subjective opinion vs universal fact?
Reason. Reason with genuine honest reflection always leads to the truth, if it slips, it will know it slipped eventually because it is humble enough to recognize it's faults.
I know what you are doing and that is not "honesty" in an objective context. I am sure you honestly believe you got it right, but so what, I am sure Christians and Jews and Buddhists as individuals honestly believe what they do.
Reason, when objective leads you where the evidences goes, not where you want it to go.
Reason and honesty when objective include the willingness to admit when you are wrong. If you are not willing to do that you are not being objective.
Christians honestly believe the bible is true.
Buddhists honestly believe Buddha is the right path.
Jews honestly believe that Yahweh is true.
Hindus honestly believe what they do as well.
Again, all of thee above still are trying to point to each respective club and claim it to be objective.
Neutral reason leads to things that can be replicated and repeated and verified outside our personal beliefs.
None of your responses reflect any sense of neutrality regardless of how much you honestly think they are neutral. I am sure you honestly believe you are being "neutral", but that is an apology, and everyone has an apology for their clubs/writings.
