(April 26, 2017 at 12:40 pm)SteveII Wrote:(April 26, 2017 at 11:54 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Well in any case if life is so insignificant, as you say, and death is so good, since you're with Jesus, then why are you so alive? I mean sure suicide is not an option for a christian but there are many dangerous jobs out there and you could be with Jesus in just few days. So why prolong the agony and this "insignificant time" any more then you have to? Is it because when it comes to you personally it's not so insignificant? It may not be Jesus out there waiting for you?
Do you think your point compelling or insightful? You are setting up a dilemma that does not exists. I can experience both. Why? How about, I want to see my children grow up, spend time with my grandchildren--and any number of activities I enjoy.
Hey you tell me, you're the one who said: "that God did not have the right to judge them and take their life because the right thing to do was wait for someone to die of some other cause and then judge them? What would make the former less 'right' than the latter? Do you understand how insignificant a human lifetime is to an eternal God? It does not even register."
So why wouldn't your god take your life now in your insignificant human lifetime? Oh yes you want to see your kids grow up. So time is not so insignificant. mmmm. What, you can't watch them from heaven?
Just like when you wrote "I don't believe God causes disease" but only few posts before you said "If there is a God who created everything" So god created diseases but he doesn't cause them, but does nothing to prevent them or cure them. And you fuss about compelling or insightful points. You wouldn't know compelling point if it slapped you over the face.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
