(May 3, 2017 at 3:33 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(May 3, 2017 at 3:32 pm)alpha male Wrote: I'm getting it. The point I was headed to is that, by your logic, once a vaccine has sufficiently reduced the chance of exposure to a particular virus, a person isn't an anti-vaxxer if they choose not to get/give their children the vaccine. I think most people on your side in this discussion would disagree, and do include those people as anti-vaxxers.
But, a lot of them have done the same with Gardasil.
Bolded mine. Completely incorrect, as far as my argument, no idea where the hell you got the first half of that from.
An anti-vaxxer, as much as I can tell, is someone who denies the scientific evidence of the efficacy and safety of vaccines, usually as a treatment altogether. One can be fully aware of the merits, efficacy, and safety of a vaccine and still refuse to vaccinate for entirely different reasons. I would argue that person has made a gravely incorrect choice, they're being illogical or ridiculous or idiotic - but they aren't what we would normally call part of the "anti-vaccine" movement.
I don't know how much clearer I can make it. It's why I think you should stop focusing so much on the label.
Where I got the first half? You said that CL isn't an anti-vaxxer for skipping gardasil because she thought she was unlikely to contact the virus. I'm extending that to a different situation, but the principle is exactly the same.