Without the Shedding of Blood There is No Remission of Sin

[SteveII]

Not to change the subject, but I find it ironic all outrage of possibly killing a limited number of babies in the OT in a very specific context when we as a society have killed hundreds of millions--largely for convenience--and it does not phase those same people.

Are you blanket claiming that atheists are pro abortion or are you talking about all your good christian buddies who send nuns off to solitaries to give birth to priest babies, or teenagers forced by their Christian parents to abort unsanctified offspring, or Christian Mormons having mass baby graves, a majority of them products of incest?

Neither, just wondering where all the outrage is about hundreds of millions of babies actually being killed when I see post after post of a possibly true story from the OT where it is possible that some small number of actual babies were killed.

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What do you mean by consciousness? If you mean self awareness, there are several intelligent species who have self awareness. For instance, they pass the mirror test.

This is what I mean:

Consciousness is a loosely defined concept that addresses the human awareness of both internal and external stimuli. This can refer to spiritual recognition, psychological understanding, medically altered states, or more modern-day concepts of life purpose, satisfaction, and self-actualization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_c...otericism)