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Universal Basic Income
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RE: Universal Basic Income
(May 4, 2017 at 2:15 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Devils advocate: I get to apply for jobs outside my abilities, never accept one and get paid. I have to take a job that I don't like, quit/get fired, and get paid. I get to blow the money on vice and the government still has to take care of me (sorry, ponies took it, now feed, house and cloth me). I own a business and you tax me because the business can't pay 5 employees the set wage and I will be taxed, solution, go out of business and get 6 people paid. 

And what of the cost to administer this program? Knowing the government, it will be 50 cents on the dollar. 

Society supports me but I don't need to support society. Very slippery slope.

I think it's worthwhile to restate that I don't think many people think that it should be instituted right now.

But if a massive job deficit occurs where service industry jobs take a massive dive due to automation and technology replacement, and there is a spike in unemployment, how will your small business survive anyhow? And how much will it cost in police spending/welfare/prison management?

Yes, of course there will be takers who will be happy to take---that's true of any entitlement system. I think the slippery slope argument has been debunked many times, though. I also think you underestimate the drive of most people to do better than the minimum. I know I wouldn't just be happy to sit at the poverty line.
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Universal Basic Income - by Grandizer - May 3, 2017 at 11:43 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Chad32 - May 4, 2017 at 12:03 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Grandizer - May 4, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Chad32 - May 4, 2017 at 8:01 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by John V - May 4, 2017 at 8:24 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Amarok - May 5, 2017 at 6:55 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Grandizer - May 5, 2017 at 7:40 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 5, 2017 at 7:50 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Amarok - May 5, 2017 at 11:07 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Silver - May 6, 2017 at 2:26 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Chad32 - May 6, 2017 at 8:40 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Chad32 - May 5, 2017 at 9:30 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Grandizer - May 5, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by vorlon13 - May 4, 2017 at 12:54 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Aoi Magi - May 4, 2017 at 1:11 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by SteelCurtain - May 4, 2017 at 1:19 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Isis - May 4, 2017 at 8:11 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Aoi Magi - May 4, 2017 at 8:21 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Isis - May 4, 2017 at 8:25 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 4, 2017 at 8:42 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Mister Agenda - May 4, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by SteelCurtain - May 4, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by ukatheist - May 4, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Minimalist - May 4, 2017 at 11:41 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Grandizer - May 4, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Isis - May 4, 2017 at 12:03 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Grandizer - May 4, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Isis - May 4, 2017 at 2:34 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Minimalist - May 4, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by mlmooney89 - May 4, 2017 at 12:41 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Grandizer - May 4, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by SteelCurtain - May 4, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by SteelCurtain - May 4, 2017 at 1:34 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 4, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Pat Mustard - May 5, 2017 at 9:13 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 5, 2017 at 9:23 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Pat Mustard - May 5, 2017 at 9:45 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 5, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Pat Mustard - May 5, 2017 at 6:31 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 5, 2017 at 7:29 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by RoadRunner79 - May 5, 2017 at 12:07 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Grandizer - May 5, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by RoadRunner79 - May 5, 2017 at 9:18 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Grandizer - May 5, 2017 at 9:28 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by mlmooney89 - May 4, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Chad32 - May 4, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 4, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Minimalist - May 4, 2017 at 2:30 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 4, 2017 at 2:32 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Minimalist - May 4, 2017 at 4:32 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Chad32 - May 4, 2017 at 3:02 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Jackalope - May 4, 2017 at 3:17 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by vorlon13 - May 4, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by SteelCurtain - May 4, 2017 at 3:11 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 4, 2017 at 4:37 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Mister Agenda - May 4, 2017 at 3:15 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Chad32 - May 4, 2017 at 3:20 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Jackalope - May 4, 2017 at 4:09 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Minimalist - May 4, 2017 at 4:56 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Jackalope - May 4, 2017 at 6:30 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Minimalist - May 4, 2017 at 10:47 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Pat Mustard - May 4, 2017 at 7:14 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Crunchy - May 4, 2017 at 11:07 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by bennyboy - May 5, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Silver - May 5, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Mister Agenda - May 5, 2017 at 5:25 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 5, 2017 at 5:30 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Mister Agenda - May 8, 2017 at 9:34 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Seraphina - May 5, 2017 at 8:57 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by johan - May 6, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Pat Mustard - May 8, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Minimalist - May 5, 2017 at 11:24 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 6, 2017 at 9:11 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by SteelCurtain - May 6, 2017 at 12:14 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 6, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Seraphina - May 6, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 6, 2017 at 9:16 am
RE: Universal Basic Income - by SteelCurtain - May 6, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 6, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by SteelCurtain - May 6, 2017 at 12:46 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by brewer - May 6, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by SteelCurtain - May 6, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by The Grand Nudger - May 6, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Jackalope - May 8, 2017 at 3:14 pm
RE: Universal Basic Income - by Mister Agenda - May 8, 2017 at 3:55 pm

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