RE: Hey Void
July 17, 2011 at 12:33 am
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2011 at 12:34 am by theVOID.)
(July 16, 2011 at 2:17 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: ..when every AMERICAN libertarian I meet face to face no longer votes the Republican ticket. In my experience, every libertarian I have met have openly voted for Republicans and even openly endorsed the tea party.
I am sure there are some LIBS out there who vote their own ticket, but I have yet to meet one face to face. Talk on the net is cheap when it comes to politics.
And what exactly is it you think the Dems have done that is socially so superior? "Abolishing" DADT? That hasn't actually happened yet has it? It will happen "When the pentagon thinks the soldiers are psychologically ready". Where is Obama giving federal mandate to same-sex marriage? And he has refused to give the states legislative power over medical marijuana, your FDA going as far as to say it has NO medicinal (which is in stark contradiction to peer-reviewed science, shows the FDA are some impartial angels who care, right?) benefits under his watch.
For a bit of contrast, It was libertarian leaning Republicans who recently legalised Gay Marriage in NY and if I recall correctly the majority of states with medical marijuana are Republican run.
(July 16, 2011 at 12:32 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Well said Void. I have no hate for corporations in general, merely distrust. On the other hand, I openly oppose the corporations you mention in this post. Im tired of people claiming progressives are "anti-business / anti-capitalists". I am pro business / capitalism. I am ANTI- greed and "cut throat capitalism".
Distrust is healthy towards any and all interests.
You can't punish someone just for being greedy, suppose someone makes a fuckton of money making goods to sell for a price people are willing to pay and making a good profit on it, their greed motivates them to expand their own business but they have never done anything unethical or illegal to obtain it - In my view they have done absolutely nothing wrong... If they have done nothing wrong then seizing their assets simply because other people aren't doing to well financially is immoral.
And what exactly is "cut throat capitalism"? The way I see it the people cutting the throats of the competition are the ones who have their cock in the government's asshole, not the ones who want free markets where the only way to "cut throats" is to give the consumers goods and services at a price so low that nobody else can compete - If that is what's happening then fucking Hooray! "Cut" as many throats as you like, if the consumers are getting goods and services so cheap that nobody else can realistically meet the low prices then I couldn't care less if you can't operate a small aluminium plant because Alco is kicking your ass in prices - What is good for consumers is low prices, taxing a giant like Alco to favour small businesses or fining them for being 'uncompetitive' because their prices are too low only passes the costs off to consumers, as does subsidising the small businesses where the costs may appear lower from the small supplier, but that is only because the value of the subsidies aren't included on the price tag.
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