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Can someone tell me where in the 2nd amendment it says you can carry machine guns?
RE: Can someone tell me where in the 2nd amendment it says you can carry machine guns?
(May 6, 2017 at 12:32 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(May 5, 2017 at 4:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The founders wrote laws REGULATING the size of muskets and musket balls. Funny how nobody on the far right gun worshiping sides ever shouts "SAWED OFF SHOTGUNS SHOULD BE LEGAL". 

It is utter nonsense that the founders intended for a free for all. No other product sold in America gets the level of immunity guns do and it is frightening. What NRA nutters are arguing would be like using rotary phone laws to regulate cell phones.

It has had court rulings, that is what the Supreme Court has done since on every subject. Unfortunately for the past 36 years the Supreme Court has sided with mostly big business, including gun companies. 

The last time the GOP cared about gun safety Reagan got shot and Brady did too. I certainly hope it doesn't take some nut hitting a high profile republican's family for society to wake up.
There are more restrictions on BB guns than on actual guns.

And that says a lot right there. BTW, the word is either "law" or "regulation". "Restriction" is a bullshit word the gun worshipers freak out over. 

Of course there should be regulations on BB guns, but if that is the case there should be effective regulations on firearms which are far more deadly than BB guns.

(May 6, 2017 at 12:55 pm)KUSA Wrote:
(May 6, 2017 at 12:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote: KUSA we are being deadly serious. Your paranoid kneejerk reaction to criticism is the problem. You have been so deeply indoctrinated, like a child of ANY conservative religion, that when someone tells you there is a problem with your attitude you stupidly take it as an "all or nothing" argument on our part, which it is NOT.

You are acting the same about guns as a right wing Muslim does when you criticize the Koran.

NOBODY on the left, that I would consider pragmatic or sane wants to ban every single firearm. Just like while I criticize ALL religions, I am not calling for an all out ban on religion. 

Your utopia attitude about pretend scenarios of what you would do "IF" "this or that" happens "I'd do this", only addresses your intent of what you think or would want to happen. In real life, what you want or think might happen is not the real life outcomes. If you go into gun ownership thinking all it takes to not hurt yourself is "I have no record" you are fooling yourself and the person you are most likely to affect because of that attitude IS YOU.

Mere target shooting is what most non police and non military get as far as training. In real life that is NOT enough to have the ability to remain calm while using a firearm. If you are not willing to take that into consideration, you are a danger to yourself and those you live with and are far more likely to make that one mistake.

WE are NOT one bit calling for a ban on every single firearm. We are addressing your flawed perception. It only takes one mistake with a gun. You have not demonstrated in this thread that you take guns seriously. "I have the right" is not the argument we are making.

Your utopia thinking will get you hurt. Your lack of pragmatism will get you hurt.


Set me straight then. What should I do? What steps should I take to be the responsible gun owner you would have me be?

1. Loose your "Nothing will ever go wrong" utopia attitude first off.
2. Understand the difference between a want and a need.
3. Understand the difference between target shooting, and firing under extreme stress.
4. Conflict is not a default position, thinking about surviving is the main goal, using your brain and training, not simply shooting.
5. STOP THINKING liberals want to ban all firearms. That is flat out bullshit.
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RE: Can someone tell me where in the 2nd amendment it says you can carry machine guns? - by Brian37 - May 6, 2017 at 12:56 pm

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